fractionMan
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It's perfectly legible, as you well know.
NUS national protest against the cuts 10.11.10 [London]
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revol68
what, fucking what?
I haven't mentioned the middle class...
grit
an ugly force for good
Yeah I know, I'm just trying to demonstrate (perhaps badly) that unification of people is going to be required to accomplish the changes you are discussing. Instead of directly attacking the system I think more can be achieved by trying to gain the support of other parts of society. Then attack together!
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
There is a need to unify people, yes, and the attack on the universality of the post-WW2 social contract would seem to me to be the perfect issue with which to find that unity. The welfare state is not some kind of charity for the destitute and terminally hopeless. It is the bedrock of a decent society, something to which everyone contributes when able to contribute, and from which everyone takes when they need it, and the vast majority do need it at some stage in their lives. The welfare state is by everyone for everyone. It is a unifying force in and of itself.
No. Because they do not striggle against that racket. They don't propose any other structure. They simply do not engage at all. That is not the action of "smart" people.
Where have I said that it won't?
Some fucking pension advisor (or whatever he claims to be) then. It is probably the most widely discussed pension in the fucking country ...
And again, where the fuck have I said anywhere that it is anything but cushy? Please stop making up what you think I think, based on your prejudices and nothing else, and read what I fucking post.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Don't make this thread about you, d-b.
So explain why it was so difficult to just say "I'd never heard of anything like it, but you're quite right."?
Why the need to imply I was talking bollocks first and then acknowledge that I wasn't in what was little more than a postscript?
fractionMan
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this.
No. It isn't. Not least because I haven't provided any "interpretation of the relative privilege" I might have. As you'll see if you go back over my posts.
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Some good advice @ Fitwatch...
Students who are worried should consider taking the following actions:
Students who are worried should consider taking the following actions:
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
life's too short to go back over your bilious and turgid posts
I'm not.
Others are choosing to have a pop at me. And to post about side issues. And resorting to their usual fuckwittery.
I reserve the right to respond to that fuckwittery.
I'm not sure that'd I'd characterise advice to perjure yourself ("It's not me") as being "good" advice ...
fractionMan
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If you really want to discuss your pensions further go do it on another thread.
Back on topic? 
I can't even pretend to have had time to read 60 pages of this thread, so apologies of this link has been posted already.
John Harris in today's Guardian has a take well worth reading about the NUS demo and its implications -- "Spending cuts : the fightback begins"
Not at all bad I thought, that article.
I can't even pretend to have had time to read 60 pages of this thread, so apologies of this link has been posted already.
John Harris in today's Guardian has a take well worth reading about the NUS demo and its implications -- "Spending cuts : the fightback begins"
Not at all bad I thought, that article.
Er ... I don't. I haven't from the outset. I only mentioned it as an entirely relevant adjunct to my rebuttal of a claim that I was somehow insulted from the effects of the cutbacks. That would have been the end of the matter, except some fuckwit decided to start discussing it in detail, apparently on the basis that they thought I was lying about it.
Now I wonder who that fuckwit was ...
to be fair most of the advice is based on people who may be arrested as a result of identification by CCTV, FIT or press photography .
For those arrested golden rule: say nothing, admit nothing.
My understanding is no-one's actually been charged with anything as yet, all bailed to return, and the vast majority of the initial arrests were for aggravated trespass, which suggests blanket arrest just to get as much information from those present/left in the building. Cps charges will be based on the information gathered post-riot. So the fitwatch advice is doubly "good" advice.
A good point, although currently those people who did not go to University also have to pay for those who do. Is it fair that a working class labourer has to subside someone else’s higher education?
I would prefer a system where those that earn the most pay the most.
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Apols for disrail...
you are a funny boy indeed... maybe just use song titles as u lie would be better??
you are a funny boy indeed... maybe just use song titles as u lie would be better??
radio_atomica
mrs vole the vet
Is it fair that that working class labourer or his children will never be able to afford university education? That is what the proposed system essentially means...
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
We've been over this before. A 'working class labourer' does not subsidise anyone's higher education. A whole raft of provisions are provided communally, including higher education for said labourer's children, if they have any, and are paid for through a tax system that taxes people progressively higher proportions of their incomes the richer they are. You seem to consistently fail to get this basic point – a university graduate who goes on to earn a large wage pays for the education of maybe 10 people from the upcoming generation over their working life. That's fairness. Universality of provision paid for from general taxation is the fairest way to fund all services.
The rest of the advice is common sense advice to any suspect if you wish to assist them escape justice (no doubt rapists will also welcome the caring advice of Fitwatch that they can use should the need arise ...). But the suggestion to say "It's not me", apparently in the context of giving evidence to the Court as it mentions a judge maybe not recognising you even if you do recognise yourself, would amount to perjury and I'm not sure that I would characterise perjuring yourself as "good" advice (nor would I expect most criminal lawyers to do so).
Saying nothing (which is very different from lying) is sound advice in relation to the time of arrest, in interview and even, subject to legal advice, in Court.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
worker's councils, syndicalism etc are not just "meaningless slogans" (in fact they're not slogans at all - db should go and look up what "slogan" means). They are political traditions. I'm posting from my phone at the mo but i'll try and go into a bit of depth later. Alternatively you could google the terms and do some reading if you're actually interested db.
The argument is that we all benefit from a better educated population in a wide variety of ways. It is a similar argument that is used in relation to universal funding of the health service, welfare benefits, etc. regardless of whether we actually use them.
You are such a fucking cretin. Do you know how tax even works?
I wouldn't suggest lying using any form of words.
If you are telling the truth, however, it is entirely a matter for you how you choose the words which you use ...
revol68
what, fucking what?
Conflating the property destruction of the student protesters with rapists, nice.
And you wonder why people hate cops.
On another thread you are defending a cop "hilariously" putting song titles into his statement regarding his shooting of a tragic fucked up man.
You are a disgusting excuse for a person, a lackey for power.
And you wonder why people hate cops.
On another thread you are defending a cop "hilariously" putting song titles into his statement regarding his shooting of a tragic fucked up man.
You are a disgusting excuse for a person, a lackey for power.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Such as some kind of tax, maybe you could call it 'earnings tax' or something similar, which is taken from your wages as a percentage, where that percentage goes up for higher earners?
I wonder whether such a system could be possible?
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