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NUS national protest against the cuts 10.11.10 [London]

copliker said:
Busy and can't watch anymore to see if they show that bit again. I was half listening the first time but I think she was going on about sites which had advertised the protest in advance. A couple of screenies from some facebook group and one from this place shown.
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That piece is now up on the Sky website btw...



(Ska - get ya royalties request in ;))
 
Staff at a homeless organisation that I work with were right behind what happened yesterday. They've already seen some effects of the recession and cuts, with increased homelessness and redudancies in their workforce
 
drcarnage said:
Was in the pub when this was shown. There were clips from a facebook group and then an image of that thread with ska invita's post enlarged.

This was highlighted:



No sound on the TV, only subtitles and I'm pretty sure they didn't actually say "Urban 75" they just used that post to highlight their "amazing discovery" that people might have talked about violence prior to the protest.
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It looked like here to me, it was something like 'here's a facebook post and here's a post from a website'. I saw SI's name and recognised those words from a post of his on the NUS thread in the announce forum, but like I said I wasn't paying that much attention and wasn't totally sure. Ta for clarifying.
 
Thora said:
He was probably out firebombing fascist pubs.

Oh, wait...

:)
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Wow, Thora, how are you sweetie?

Mmm, "firebombing". That rings a bell. I do recall setting fire to the net curtains of a pub many moons ago, but never "firebombed" anything.
 
Interesting to see the early reaction to the tories. When they were last in power there was no internet and less chance for the people they were screwing over to get organised. Now they can get organised far better and faster and this is just the beginning of an outpouring of massive public anger.
 
Way I see it, 21st century students can smash shit up and still think anarchist agitprop is for the cunts.

Smashing tory HQ was fun. But anarchists take no credit.

Most think extreme left wing class politics is a tired joke.

They're more empowered now than us old cunts ever were, and they don't need daft @ slogans to prove it.

Anarchism to these new generations of studenys is about as attractive as Scientology.

They'll take what they need and fuck the rest off. It's all good.
 
pk said:
Way I see it, 21st century students can smash shit up and still think anarchist agitprop is for the cunts.

Smashing tory HQ was fun. But anarchists take no credit.

Most think extreme left wing class politics is a tired joke.

They're more empowered now than us old cunts ever were, and they don't need daft @ slogans to prove it.

Anarchism to these new generations of studenys is about as attractive as Scientology.

They'll take what they need and fuck the rest off. It's all good.
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You do have a point in there somewhere, it's true.
 
pk said:
Way I see it, 21st century students can smash shit up and still think anarchist agitprop is for the cunts.

Smashing tory HQ was fun. But anarchists take no credit.

Most think extreme left wing class politics is a tired joke.

They're more empowered now than us old cunts ever were, and they don't need daft @ slogans to prove it.

Anarchism to these new generations of studenys is about as attractive as Scientology.

They'll take what they need and fuck the rest off. It's all good.
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Yeah cos there wasn't anarchist and socialist students in decisive roles in the march and the sacking of Tory HQ, furthermore if the kids can see through these cuts and attempt to make common cause with other sections being attacked by the tories then what are they doing but showing that socialism and anarchism are precisely organic products of proletarian struggle and not text book ideologies imposed by philosopher kings.

Now fuck off pk you ugly tedious cunt, I mean how fucking sad do you have to be to enter a discussion post the sacking of Tory HQ and use it as a cheap means of attacking anarchists and socialists, the very people who are most behind the actions of the students.

Go stick your head in the oven.
 
pk said:
Way I see it, 21st century students can smash shit up and still think anarchist agitprop is for the cunts.

Smashing tory HQ was fun. But anarchists take no credit.

Most think extreme left wing class politics is a tired joke.

They're more empowered now than us old cunts ever were, and they don't need daft @ slogans to prove it.

Anarchism to these new generations of studenys is about as attractive as Scientology.

They'll take what they need and fuck the rest off. It's all good.
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Expert in this area or just down with the kids Daddyo ?
 
One mildly amusing point of view I heard (I forget where) is that this generation of student protesters are Thatcher's children, and therefore when they want something they think they'll get it if they make enough noise.
 
it's just his same old tedious anarcho baiting, he's pretty much got a chip on his shoulder cos he's too thick to argue politics and gets his arse handed to him on the political forums.

He's a sad man.
 
copliker said:
It looked like here to me, it was something like 'here's a facebook post and here's a post from a website'. I saw SI's name and recognised those words from a post of his on the NUS thread in the announce forum, but like I said I wasn't paying that much attention and wasn't totally sure. Ta for clarifying.
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Oh, it was definitely here, they just didn't mention the name.
 
drcarnage said:
Oh, it was definitely here, they just didn't mention the name.
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Feckit sorry, I completely misread your post. Poor choice of words from me originally, I meant to add that the sitename wasn't mentioned explicitly, just a screenie shown, but had to go do something. As you were.
 
copliker said:
Feckit sorry, I completely misread your post. Poor choice of words from me originally, I meant to add that the sitename wasn't mentioned explicitly, just a screenie shown, but had to go do something. As you were.
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No worries. My shit writing is probably to blame.
 
'Interesting to see the early reaction to the tories. When they were last in power there was no internet and less chance for the people they were screwing over to get organised. Now they can get organised far better and faster and this is just the beginning of an outpouring of massive public anger.'

Smith and the banker Freud just introduced the most draconian welfare changes since the Victorian era, (so much so that Newsnight had images of the workhouse in its package on them)these will ultimately have much more of an effect and much deeper than the tuition fees, yet 70% of the public in a Ch4 poll support them ,some want to go futher, there just hasn't been a defence of welfare, etc to challenge these opinions, still isn't imo.
 
 
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treelover said:
'Interesting to see the early reaction to the tories. When they were last in power there was no internet and less chance for the people they were screwing over to get organised. Now they can get organised far better and faster and this is just the beginning of an outpouring of massive public anger.'

Smith and the banker Freud just introduced the most draconian welfare changes since the Victorian era, (so much so that Newsnight had images of the workhouse in its package on them)these will ultimately have much more of an effect and much deeper than the tuition fees, yet 70% of the public in a Ch4 poll support them ,some want to go futher, there just hasn't been a defence of welfare, etc to challenge these opinions, still isn't imo.
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That's not what I've been seeing. People who are normally apathetic or "hang-them-all-I won't-admit-to-voting-Tory-but-I-do" are really, really pissed off with what's going on. Everywhere I go - work, shops, pubs, people are talking about what happened yesterday and how they hate what the Government are doing. Yes, I'm young, but I've never seen such anger and awareness of politics than what I've seen in the past few weeks.
 
treelover said:
'Interesting to see the early reaction to the tories. When they were last in power there was no internet and less chance for the people they were screwing over to get organised. Now they can get organised far better and faster and this is just the beginning of an outpouring of massive public anger.'

Smith and the banker Freud just introduced the most draconian welfare changes since the Victorian era, (so much so that Newsnight had images of the workhouse in its package on them)these will ultimately have much more of an effect and much deeper than the tuition fees, yet 70% of the public in a Ch4 poll support them ,some want to go futher, there just hasn't been a defence of welfare, etc to challenge these opinions, still isn't imo.
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Yeah the papers have spent years attacking the unemployed, single mums, the disabled and anyone who is on benefit, this hasn't happened to students for obvious reasons which is why I think it's great that a lot of the students were linking to the cuts issue as a whole, calling for unity with the struggles of public sector workers and unemployed groups, the point needs ramming home that an attack on any section of the working class is an attack on all and nothing more than a means of sewing division and shifting the focus away from opposing the cuts to pathetic bickering between various sections over who should feel the most wrath of the cuts.
 
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