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I watched Midnight Mass a few weeks ago. Enjoyed it...but was confused as to how
any religious person could think that the very obvious looking demon was an angel...it was the one flaw in a good story
 
I watched Midnight Mass a few weeks ago. Enjoyed it...but was confused as to how
any religious person could think that the very obvious looking demon was an angel...it was the one flaw in a good story
I had lots of problems with the series but not with that.
The traditional depiction of angels as wearing white gowns with feathery wings, doesn't necessarily correspond with descriptions in the bible where they can be scary. Also there are lots of different type of angels in the bible and demons only are fallen angels anyway. Father Paul gives a pretty convincing explanation for why he thought the demon is an angel via quotes from the bible in one sermon and of course the angel/demon healed and rejuvenated him. The entire series is an allegory for how Christian zealots justify evil.
 
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I watched The Owners last night. Whilst not the greatest movie of all time when I saw it had Sylvester McCoy and Rita Tushingham in it, I couldn't resist.

The movie itself is fairly predictable but very watchable and those two are worth the price of admission alone, as it were.
 
I had lots of problems with the series but not with that.
The traditional depiction of angels as wearing white gowns with feathery wings, doesn't necessarily correspond with descriptions in the bible where they can be scary. Also there are lots of different type of angels in the bible and demons only are fallen angels anyway. Father Paul gives a pretty convincing explanation for why he thought the demon is an angel via quotes from the bible in one sermon and of course the angel/demon healed and rejuvenated him. The entire series is an allegory for how Christian zealots justify evil.
The angels were anything but traditional angelic looking in Supernatural
 
I had lots of problems with the series but not with that.
The traditional depiction of angels as wearing white gowns with feathery wings, doesn't necessarily correspond with descriptions in the bible where they can be scary. Also there are lots of different type of angels in the bible and demons only are fallen angels anyway. Father Paul gives a pretty convincing explanation for why he thought the demon is an angel via quotes from the bible in one sermon and of course the angel/demon healed and rejuvenated him. The entire series is an allegory for how Christian zealots justify evil.

I get that.
But
a vampire blood sucking angel would be a dead give away for most ordinary common or garden variety christians

Just saying...
 
Is a slasher a horror? Is a ghost story a horror? Is a zombie film a horror? Is a film about a family of cannibals a horror? What about a home invasion movie? Is it horror if there is a strong comic element? Does horror have to have a supernatural element? Or can it just be about humans being monsters to other humans? I think you are doing horror a disservice by defining it so narrowly.
FWIW Orang Utan, I fully agree with your assessment of the different kinds of horror film. I guess I was trying to reach out to those people who might have loved the far more terrifying type of horror that was prevalent in The Haunting of Hill House and were expecting a similar level of terror. In short, that one should stick with the series if they were expecting a fright fest and were not getting one.
 
FWIW Orang Utan, I fully agree with your assessment of the different kinds of horror film. I guess I was trying to reach out to those people who might have loved the far more terrifying type of horror that was prevalent in The Haunting of Hill House and were expecting a similar level of terror. In short, that one should stick with the series if they were expecting a fright fest and were not getting one.
I didn't find Hill House any more frightening than Midnight Mass.
 
I gave up after the first couple of episodes of Midnight Mass. It wasn't horror eg scary. I really enjoyed Hill House and Bly Manor and thought they were scary, especially HH.
I don't like gore or slasher stuff really but horror does have to have scares. Something can have a supernatural element but not be horror.
 
I watched the first series of the OA and the first episode of S2 but find myself oddly reluctant to invest further time or effort . I really have to work hard to concentrate on screens but have enjoyed enough things to convince me to keep trying.. This happens a lot (to me), sometimes failing to manage the very last episode.. I am not really convinced I liked the first series (but did persist) and could be nudged one way or another . Evening and nightly insomnia approaches and I am without a decent reading book.
 
Two things: I think it helps to consider horror itself as a subset of the enormous “thriller” genre. We can then differentiate horror without the question “is it scary/tense”. Horror, I would argue, a lingering thematic/narrative attention to the end point of a dangerous situation. A non-horror thriller tends to focus entirely on the journey to that end point, and may gloss over the harm or death etc itself.

Horror is a fascinating genre, though. Stock in trade for low-budget filmmakers, younger, bigger casts, and yes - the tropes are well-worn, but the attention paid to manipulating every moment of spectator response is a little like conducting an orchestra. And so many sub-genres of it’s own.

Second thing
Ive said for ages that angels should look like bats. Bird wings have feathers because bird bodies have feathers. Winged mammals have skin wings. And although angels aren’t supposed to be humans- and so probably aren’t mammals either - I’m pretty sure they’re not big feathery birds either. In art they are commonly agreed to take a human-esque appearance, and their arms, faces, feet… appear to be smooth, with no feathers. Why would they have bird wings?

I suppose they could have insubstantial wings of gossamer-thin fragility, like a moth or ladybird. Or they could have metal aeroplane wings or, furry wings or plastic paddles or anything really. But wings like a great big bat are by far the most likely. The blood sucking was clearly bonkerballs, but the elderly Monseigneur was already suffering from dementia, before the whole “nearly dying from exposure” experience.
 
Started watching Maid and first 2 episodes were excellent. So I did my usual "research" and looked into Margaret Qualey's bio (she looked familiar) and she's in Once Upon Time in Hollywood, but more interestingly, she's a trained ballet dancer, almost went pro but decided she wanted to act instead. And then I found this advert, which is pure joy! She's also Andie MacDowell's daughter, who plays her narcissistic (maybe bipolar, I dunno) mum in Maid.

 
Started watching Maid and first 2 episodes were excellent. So I did my usual "research" and looked into Margaret Qualey's bio (she looked familiar) and she's in Once Upon Time in Hollywood, but more interestingly, she's a trained ballet dancer, almost went pro but decided she wanted to act instead. And then I found this advert, which is pure joy! She's also Andie MacDowell's daughter, who plays her narcissistic (maybe bipolar, I dunno) mum in Maid.


Yeah I’m really enjoying Maid, although I think the series is a tiny bit long and I’m starting to lose interest.
 
Yeah I’m really enjoying Maid, although I think the series is a tiny bit long and I’m starting to lose interest.
It's a really short series! Although I agree that the beginning was stronger than the end and it was all tied up in quite a nice and sweet way, which was a bit disappointing for something gritty.
 
Yes to the above. I liked it though, Margaret Qualley is very watchable. I thought the powerlessness and dissociation was very well done.
Yes, I enjoyed it overall. Margaret Qualley was great as was Andie McDowell's mum with mental health problems.
 
Yes, I enjoyed it overall. Margaret Qualley was great as was Andie McDowell's mum with mental health problems.

Yes, I thought she did a great job of showing the moment to moment movement of in and out of greater and lesser in touchness, and the power of delusion, its seduction.
 
Watched A Perfect Crime, a German four part documentary about the 1990 murder of Detlev Karsten Rohwedder.

Rohwedder had been appointed by the BRD government to head up its 'Treuhand' organisation in Berlin, which handled the fire sale/asset-stripping of the DDR's resources and infrastructure prior to reunification, and the series takes in elements such as the RAF, Stasi, and widespread disquiet amongst Ossis (and others) at the forced, accelerated marketisation of the 'five new Federal Länder'.

A very interesting story, but the various securocrat talking heads make for a confusing experience for viewers not familiar with the many overlapping intelligence, counterintelligence and policing agencies.


 
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Mrs Frank is watching the Hill House thing. Fucking hell but it's dry. I think the twist is gonna be that everyone in the show is dead already, which explains why the dialogue is like that.
 
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