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[AnnO'Neemus]

Watched Worth last night. Brilliant. Lawyers in the aftermath of 911 looking to compensate victims families have to determine the value (worth) of a life. ‘Is a CEO worth more than a janitor?’

Better than it sounds.

I used to be a medicolegal secretary for a law firm that specialised in medical negligence and personal injury.

It often used to surprise people to hear how little a life was 'worth'. iirc, it was around £7k, eg if someone lost a child.

The big money claims were in ongoing support costs and loss of earnings.

So, yeah, in legal/compensation terms, a janitor's death is 'worth' less than a CEO's. A CEO's family would expect to claim $millions in loss of earnings, to keep them in the lifestyle to which they were accustomed.

 

[kittyP]

Jim Carrey may well be a total knob (he also has been a public anti-vaxxer) but I'll never turn down a great film by a talented director and/or screenwriter (in the case of Eternal Sunshine, Michel Gondry and Charle Kaufman) because of an actor, especially when that actor gives a good performance as Carrey does in the film. Film is a team effort, seems odd to not watch a film because one of the many people who worked on it doesn't live up to your standards.

Oh I agree.
But I think in terms of the documentary about Jim Carey and Andy Kaufman, the whole point was about them as real people and dressing up really bad behaviour as glorified genius.

 

[Reno]

Oh I agree.
But I think in terms of the documentary about Jim Carey and Andy Kaufman, the whole point was about them as real people and dressing up really bad behaviour as glorified genius.

That was more general and wasn't aimed at you at all, the documentary is really fascinating and I didn't think the Andy Kaufman biopic was very good.

 

[danny la rouge]

Jim Carrey may well be a total knob (he also has been a public anti-vaxxer) but I'll never turn down a great film by a talented director and/or screenwriter (in the case of Eternal Sunshine, Michel Gondry and Charle Kaufman) because of an actor, especially when that actor gives a good performance as Carrey does in the film. Film is a team effort, seems odd to not watch a film because one of the many people who worked on it doesn't live up to your standards.

In my case it’s not about standards. I am repelled and repulsed by Mr Carrey. He gives me the creeps. I physically can’t abide his presence. This isn’t a matter of choice. He makes me ill.

 

[rubbershoes]

I used to be a medicolegal secretary for a law firm that specialised in medical negligence and personal injury.

It often used to surprise people to hear how little a life was 'worth'. iirc, it was around £7k, eg if someone lost a child.

The big money claims were in ongoing support costs and loss of earnings.

So, yeah, in legal/compensation terms, a janitor's death is 'worth' less than a CEO's. A CEO's family would expect to claim $millions in loss of earnings, to keep them in the lifestyle to which they were accustomed.

If prosthetics are needed, they greatly increase the value of a claim. £50k for a prosthetic knee that needs replacing every 5 years

 

[Reno]

I wasn’t endorsing her views (of which I know nothing), I just think she’s a very fine actor.

From the contracts she signs which specify that her face and body aren't to be retouched to promote unrealistic beauty standards, to the roles she chooses which more often than not make political points about women, Winslet doesn't strike me as too much of an anti-feminist monster. I also have a friend who has worked with her, who had nothing but good things to say about her and she has very few good things to say about most of the film stars she works with.

 

[krtek a houby]

In my case it’s not about standards. I am repelled and repulsed by Mr Carrey. He gives me the creeps. I physically can’t abide his presence. This isn’t a matter of choice. He makes me ill.

Very difficult to separate the artist from what they do/done. Especially when it comes to the allegations against JC.

Yeah, some of his output is great... but

 

[Reno]

In my case it’s not about standards. I am repelled and repulsed by Mr Carrey. He gives me the creeps. I physically can’t abide his presence. This isn’t a matter of choice. He makes me ill.

While there are actors I don't like, I can't think of anybody I feel that strongly about.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

What has Jim Carrey done that is so reprehensible? Genuinely interested. He does seem like rather a dick to me, but I wasn't aware he was that bad.

 

[kittyP]

Very difficult to separate the artist from what they do/done. Especially when it comes to the allegations against JC.

Yeah, some of his output is great... but

I think in this day, where we (thankfully) know a lot more about the bad (sometimes illegal) behaviour of famous people, we all draw lines about what we are comfortable with.
Those lines will be different for each famous person, for each of us and may change.

Like, it absolutely broke my heart when the casts of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel came out and told the world about Joss Whedon's terrible behaviour during the filming or those shows. Seriously cruel bulling and emotional manipulation.
It was sparked but other accusations from actors who had worked with JW on more recent productions.
Those shows meant so much to me and I haven't been able to watch them since.
But I don't think people shouldn't watch them as they were amazing ensemble pieces and that cunt (who is never even on screen) shouldn't ruin it.
I just wouldn't watch anything he has done since the accusations came out and I hope no one fucking works with him again.

 

[Chz]

While there are actors I don't like, I can't think of anybody I feel that strongly about.

In general, I agree. But Nick Cage gives me the creeps. I involuntarily shudder when I see him. No idea why, it's not a conscious thing.

 

[danny la rouge]

While there are actors I don't like, I can't think of anybody I feel that strongly about.

For me the only people who come close are Keith Lemon or seeing footage of Jimmy Savile now that I know what he did.

 

[danny la rouge]

the allegations against JC.

Not aware of these.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

For me the only people who come close are Keith Lemon or seeing footage of Jimmy Savile now that I know what he did.

Oh Keith Lemon is awful

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Oh I agree.
But I think in terms of the documentary about Jim Carey and Andy Kaufman, the whole point was about them as real people and dressing up really bad behaviour as glorified genius.

I might be reading this post round the wrong way, and it's been a while since I have seen the doc but. . . . I thought it was a bit of a hindsight piece where everyone, including Carey, say he was acting the dick, I can't remember anyone thinking it was a genius at work.

Kaufman (Andy) seemed to be genuinely trying to do something, push some comedy / art boundaries. . . though I think some of it was misguided. In the early 2000s a friend lent me a compilation DVD of a load of Kaufman performances and a special, and it just wasn't funny, but somehow that made it funny. It's just mad thinking that it was transmitted on TV, the network must have been pulling their hair out, as they would have been hoping for the comedy stylings of Latka from Taxi.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Oh Keith Lemon is awful

I think my ex girlfriend goes out with him.

 

[kittyP]

I might be reading this post round the wrong way, and it's been a while since I have seen the doc but. . . . I thought it was a bit of a hindsight piece where everyone, including Carey, say he was acting the dick, I can't remember anyone thinking it was a genius at work.

Tbh I can't be totally sure but I seem to be thinking that when I saw the doc it was a bit of both, it was showing how much of a dick JC was but also saying that it was OK because it was genius.

But I would have to watch it again to be absolutely sure.

 

[Reno]

In general, I agree. But Nick Cage gives me the creeps. I involuntarily shudder when I see him. No idea why, it's not a conscious thing.

I avoid Ricki Gervais, Mike Myers and Rowan Atkinson wherever I can but still would watch any of them if cast against type in something good. It took me till the credits to figure out Mike Myers even was in Inglorious Basterds.

 

[kittyP]

Oh Keith Lemon is awful

I know a few people who know him in real life and all say he is very nice and quite shy in person.
I cannot stand the TV he does though.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

If prosthetics are needed, they greatly increase the value of a claim. £50k for a prosthetic knee that needs replacing every 5 years

Yes, that's the point I made about big compensation payouts relating to ongoing support costs and loss of earnings.

If someone needed to move to a bungalow or to add a ground floor extension to be wheelchair accessible, if they needed to add an extra bedroom for a carer to stay in, or if they needed to have new wheelchairs every few years, new wheelchair accessible or adapted vehicles every few years, physiotherapy sessions, special equipment and aids, etc, cost of hiring carers, etc, etc, then that's what bumps up compensation payouts.

Some people think of compensation as like winning the lottery, like you get some kind of super bonus extra payout and end up rich or something, but really compensation is simply intended to put people back in the same situation they would've been, if not for X incident. So in theory, you don't end up with lots of extra money like a lottery win, it's calculated to cover those additional costs.

Similarly, loss of earnings aspects of compensation claims, these are designed to pay for housing costs, living expenses, etc.

That's why compensation for the death of a CEO would probably cover the costs of paying off the mortgage of a big fancy house and the holiday home in the Hamptons, private school education for the kids, etc, whereas the compensation to the janitor's family, would cover much more modest accommodation, so if they were both the same age, the loss of earnings might equate to $50million x 20 years till retirement age versus $20,000 x 20 years till retirement age. If the janitor was a woman, the family might also get some kind of 'loss of amenity' type package, to cover the cost of the dad having to pay for childcare costs, cleaning, etc, while raising children solo.

Btw, there are legal texts and precedents (in England and Wales at least) as to how much different things are 'worth' like loss of a limb, loss of eyesight, different amounts for different injuries.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Tbh I can't be totally sure but I seem to be thinking that when I saw the doc it was a bit of both, it was showing how much of a dick JC was but also saying that it was OK because it was genius.

But I would have to watch it again to be absolutely sure.

Ha, me too, I think I should watch it again. My take away was that Carey really regretted his behaviour and everyone thought he acted the right cunt, but some were nicer about it on camera than others.

 

[krtek a houby]

Not aware of these.

Tragic, unpleasant stuff

The damning note left by Jim Carrey's ex-girlfriend before her suicide

 

[T & P]

Nightbooks. A PG-rated fantasy/ horror-ish film. I thought it was very watchable, not just for older kids but for grownups who enjoy family adventure/ horror flicks on principle if decent enough.

 

[May Kasahara]

I'm watching Betaal with my teenager. Two episodes in, it's a surprisingly effective zombie/possession horror thriller with a nice anti colonial twist.

 

[DaveCinzano]

The original Candyman

 

[BillRiver]

Tragic, unpleasant stuff

The damning note left by Jim Carrey's ex-girlfriend before her suicide

Indeed.

But also : that headline seems a bit misleading to me. I thought it meant she wrote the note just before her death, as one of her final acts. The article says it something she wrote two years earlier that the family have uncovered more recently.

 

[kittyP]

Nightbooks. A PG-rated fantasy/ horror-ish film. I thought it was very watchable, not just for older kids but for grownups who enjoy family adventure/ horror flicks on principle if decent enough.

Ooh that looks good and has Jessica Jones in it

 

[T & P]

Ooh that looks good and has Jessica Jones in it

Yeah she’s great. If I was in charge of casting for Cruella and Emma Stone wasn’t available, she would have been my next choice.

 

[spanglechick]

Ha, me too, I think I should watch it again. My take away was that Carey really regretted his behaviour and everyone thought he acted the right cunt, but some were nicer about it on camera than others.

I didn’t get much regret at all from my viewing of the documentary. Carrey seems to feel a bit sorry for himself that he was a helpless passenger on the “method acting” train. There’s a little hint of chagrin when he talks about Milos Foreman being the amazing director of Cuckoo’s Nest… but I don’t get any sense that he wishes he’d made different choices. More like “naughty Andy Kaufman probably shouldn’t have done that to the great Milos Foreman”.

Like I say, Carrey just comes across as disconnected and a little fragmented. Which, since the conceit of the documentary is that releasing the footage now was his idea, seems odd.

 

[T & P]

A friendly reminder that S3 of Sex Education has just dropped