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Watched Sophie: A Murder In West Cork.
Not sure what to make of it.

If the main suspect was guilty he has pulled the wool over everyone's eyes for 25 years. And a lot of people have lied.
If he is innocent, then it's really shite for him.

Above all, what saddened me the most was that after watching all 3 episodes, I knew less about Sophie than about Bailey.

It's shite that he demands so much attention and notice and seems to thrive on it all.

No surprise that the gardai come out looking worse than the keystone cops
 
All watched with 16yo:
Black Summer - watched season 1. Pretty good. Like a mash up of just the running about bits from other fast zombie films. Went from 6/10 to 7/10 with the last episode which had a great and fairly original last 20 minutes. Not really arsed about watching season 2 though.
Z Nation - watched first 3 episodes. Not bad so far. Shonky but engaging.
Fear Street - pretty crap. After the first 'oh look it's a bit like the 80s I remember all that you know', it's felt incoherent. Also it's not very scary.
Ragnarok - loved this a lot. Great acting, familiar yet original story, good fun. A hit all round in our house.
Last Chance U (the basket ball one) - despite none of us being into basketball, this was another hit. Follows a bunch of teens rolling the dice to get into pro basketball. Well worth a watch.
Bo Burnham Inside - funny, annoying, made me feel 'plus ca change' about being in my teens/twenties. Can happily never listen to any of the songs ever again. Lil'FA addicted.


(Best TV by far this year is Mare of Easttown btw which I've just finished. Sublime telly).
 
Cowboy Bebop's dub is pretty good, but that's the only pre-2000 series I can think of. (and just mentioning it means I have to go and watch the opening credits on YT again) In films, Princess Mononoke wasn't too awful but that's a high-budget Disney import so you'd expect it to be half-decent.

And Neil Gaiman tried to tone down some of Disney's impulses in the translation.

How Neil Gaiman protected Princess Mononoke from Disneyfication
 
Midsommar


Creepy as fuck.
I wish I’d thought it was creepy. TBF, my opinion of it has improved since I first saw it.

I was initially very disappointed with it, after loving the director’s superb previous film Hereditary, which was a proper horror film and then some, and also reading very positive reviews about this one. So I was expecting a similarly unsettling horror film, which Midsommer is most definitely not. Certainly not horror anyway.

But since then I have started to view it as a surreal dark comedy film, and in that light it feels much more agreeable.
 
I wish I’d thought it was creepy. TBF, my opinion of it has improved since I first saw it.

I was initially very disappointed with it, after loving the director’s superb previous film Hereditary, which was a proper horror film and then some, and also reading very positive reviews about this one. So I was expecting a similarly unsettling horror film, which Midsommer is most definitely not. Certainly not horror anyway.

But since then I have started to view it as a surreal dark comedy film, and in that light it feels much more agreeable.

Just because it is a surreal dark comedy doesn't mean it isn't also horror.

I was lucky (if you can call it that) that due to a lot of friends and acquaintances having similar taste in films to me, I heard/saw lots of either mixed or opposing views of the film talked about before I got a round to watching it.
I almost didn't watch it because, to me, it has been talked about to death, and often that means there is not much left for you as a first time viewer to get from it.
I was glad I did.
I thought it was both silly and fascinating, scary and funny, odd and also annoying but over all I really enjoyed it..
 
The thing about dubs is - some people really do need it. Visual issues, dyslexia, concentration (ADHD and other) issues, a variety of other neurological communications issues can all have an impact on peoples' ability to enjoy productions in other languages with subtitles only.

For sure I think we all accept that listening to the original acting in any language and reading subtitles is a superior experience because you get the original acting (which is more than just the lines of script being delivered), BUT given that many people are unable to enjoy that, I think it is essential to highlight and praise dubbing where it is done really well.

Thankfully, dubbing has been getting a lot better over recent years - Netflix now have a pretty good record of hiring excellent voice actors for their own productions who are able to deliver a good viewing experience to people who cannot, for whatever reason, do subtitles alone.

It's why I always include a little note about the English dub for shows in other languages besides English that I have watched. Yes it will always be 2nd best compared to watching it in the original audio with subtitles - but ffs as some people do rely on the dub, the better quality of voice acting and production of it there is, the better - and if it helps others who might have similar issues if I say "the English dub of this is really well done" or "don't bother, this is terrible", then it is worth a note at the bottom of any review.

Just because the majority can manage with subtitles doesn't mean that we should accept shoddy dubbing, or write off all dubbing as beneath our notice, for those who can't.
 
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Watched the first episode of Safe and probably won't bother with any more.

Maybe it's because I've come to it straight from Unforgotten, but Safe just seemed lacking. If characters in dramas don't behave in a plausible way and their words seem unlikely, it puts me off.

A lot of what they said and did didn't seem realistic.
 
Watched the first episode of Safe and probably won't bother with any more.

Maybe it's because I've come to it straight from Unforgotten, but Safe just seemed lacking. If characters in dramas don't behave in a plausible way and their words seem unlikely, it puts me off.

A lot of what they said and did didn't seem realistic.
I gave up on Safe after the first episode, awful writing.
 
Watched the first episode of Safe and probably won't bother with any more.

Maybe it's because I've come to it straight from Unforgotten, but Safe just seemed lacking. If characters in dramas don't behave in a plausible way and their words seem unlikely, it puts me off.

A lot of what they said and did didn't seem realistic.
Safe is not a patch on Unforgotten. It seemed to lurch from one pointless plot twist to the next merely for the sake of extending the story. The Stranger is the same. They both just go on and on. I think Harlan Coben maybe needs a good editor.
 
Maybe what he does works on the page but Harlan Coben writes the these overly constructed airport thrillers where everything is subservient to the plot twists and mysteries. Nothing about them feels real. There was a French film from 2006 called Tell No One which was based on a novel of his. It had a few great Hitchcockian set pieces and maybe me not speaking French made it feel less clunky, but when the revelations came, it still got very silly.
 
Safe is not a patch on Unforgotten. It seemed to lurch from one pointless plot twist to the next merely for the sake of extending the story. The Stranger is the same. They both just go on and on. I think Harlan Coben maybe needs a good editor.

I read one of his books a few years ago and it was alright.

It could be the adaptation for TV that is the problem.

E2a... What Reno said
 
Watched Sophie: A Murder In West Cork.
Not sure what to make of it.

I watched it aswell. As true crime stuff goes I thought it was interesting. 3 episodes was a good length, not too long and drawn out so easy to watch all of it in an evening.

I notice Ian Bailey is taking legal action against Netflix so there'll be further attention on him rather than Sophie. It was hard to come to any conclusion other than him being guilty. The idea he could sit around in the town square reciting poems and be accepted must feel so shit for her family. And the copper who led the investigation did far too much laughing. Cunts all round.
 
While we're off topic on dubs vs subs, one that really bothers me is when the two are markedly different. To the effect that entire lines of dialogue are completely different between the two. Reason being that I watch everything with subtitles on. I find it better than turning up the volume because a lot of the time it's background sound overwhelming the dialogue. But I've seen cases where the English subs are a direct translation from Italian/Japanese/whatever, but the dub is a different interpretation. Or vice-versa. I wish the sub and dub teams would work together. I see this most frequently when watching anime with the youngster - he's understandably not into subtitles at his age, so I'll watch the dub of say Porco Rosso but still have the subtitles on for me. And it bothers my brain that what they're saying doesn't match the printed word.
 
While we're off topic on dubs vs subs, one that really bothers me is when the two are markedly different. To the effect that entire lines of dialogue are completely different between the two. Reason being that I watch everything with subtitles on. I find it better than turning up the volume because a lot of the time it's background sound overwhelming the dialogue. But I've seen cases where the English subs are a direct translation from Italian/Japanese/whatever, but the dub is a different interpretation. Or vice-versa. I wish the sub and dub teams would work together. I see this most frequently when watching anime with the youngster - he's understandably not into subtitles at his age, so I'll watch the dub of say Porco Rosso but still have the subtitles on for me. And it bothers my brain that what they're saying doesn't match the printed word.
There are different challenges for both approaches. Dubs often have to fit the mouth movements of the actors, so words and grammar get changed around to make the dialogue fit. Subtitles often have to be slightly condensed so they can be read at the same spead as the dialogue.
 
I watched it aswell. As true crime stuff goes I thought it was interesting. 3 episodes was a good length, not too long and drawn out so easy to watch all of it in an evening.

I notice Ian Bailey is taking legal action against Netflix so there'll be further attention on him rather than Sophie. It was hard to come to any conclusion other than him being guilty. The idea he could sit around in the town square reciting poems and be accepted must feel so shit for her family. And the copper who led the investigation did far too much laughing. Cunts all round.

I think that ..
Bailey's partner made the biggest statement about him. At the time of the investigation she told gardai that Bailey had been in bed with her that night but that he had gone early. He claimed he went to the studio. But she said he came back and had a scratch on his forehead and scratches on his hands. That, along with the Italian student saying a dark coat was soaking in a bucket in the bathroom and then the evidence of a fire behind the studio...all within 2 days of the murder.
The dpp said it was all circumstantial...but fuck it...the guy told numbers of people he did it.
It's very weird.

And yet again the guy gets a load of attention. It's as if he thrives on it.

The good thing is Jules has now left him.
 
I think that ..
Bailey's partner made the biggest statement about him. At the time of the investigation she told gardai that Bailey had been in bed with her that night but that he had gone early. He claimed he went to the studio. But she said he came back and had a scratch on his forehead and scratches on his hands. That, along with the Italian student saying a dark coat was soaking in a bucket in the bathroom and then the evidence of a fire behind the studio...all within 2 days of the murder.
The dpp said it was all circumstantial...but fuck it...the guy told numbers of people he did it.
It's very weird.

And yet again the guy gets a load of attention. It's as if he thrives on it.

The good thing is Jules has now left him.

Having said all of that there was a series of 14 podcasts that certainly had a lot more in them and alluded to "others".

Worth a read...if interested.


And from the podcasts..

There are other possibilities – a Frenchman who moved to West Cork from Marseille met Sophie one day at a restaurant and then committed suicide just a few months after her murder.

‘There was a German guy living near Schull who had no alibi for that night. The guards spoke to him. He was a big drinker and had been violent towards his partner. He moved back to Germany and also committed suicide.’

Those two statements take up just over 30 seconds of the 14-episode podcast.

The German’s name was Karl Heinz Wolney and he lived a mile from Sophie’s home. He was a musician and had played in Crookhaven on the night that the French film producer was killed.

Wolney returned home that night on his own and, shortly before he took his own life, a friend claims he told him that he had ‘done a terrible thing’ and couldn’t live with himself.
As for the man from Marseille, very little is known and Gardai never interviewed him as a suspect. However, Sophie’s former lover Bruno Carbonnet, a French artist, spoke of an odd meeting with a man during his time in west Cork with Ms Toscan du Plantier.

Speaking to French police in an official statement, Mr Carbonnet said: ‘One day, when on a visit to west Cork, we went to a restaurant in Goleen… There was a Frenchman at the neighbouring table and somebody called him the man from Marseille. I cannot remember his name…

‘He came over to our table and introduced himself. He talked to us and asked where Sophie lived. When she told him, he said he had tried to buy the same house. He asked me was I a hunting man and I said no.’
Mr Carbonnet then claimed that the man said to him: ‘But you’re interested in women?’

The French artist stated that Sophie did not like this remark and that the man from Marseille went on to make small talk about fishing before Sophie asked where his own house was.

‘The meeting was odd,’ Mr Carbonnet concluded.

A fisherman, originally from Marseille, but who lived in the Schull area, the same man skimmed over in the West Cork podcast, took his own life three months after Sophie’s murder

There was the theory of a hitman who had been hired by Sophie’s husband Daniel Toscan du Plantier to carry out the murder. Daniel had been in some financial difficulty and it is believed that Sophie had a large insurance policy on her life that her husband was the beneficiary of. Sophie had also been having an affair in the years prior to her death which Daniel knew of.

Sophie’s husband, somewhat infamously, did not travel to west Cork to identify his wife’s body. Frederic Gazeau, a cousin of Sophie’s, said that Daniel ‘refused to go to Ireland to answer the investigators’ questions. Quite surprising when his wife just died.’

There was also the witness who told Gardai of a speeding blue Fiesta with red number plates that was seen fleeing the village in the hours following Sophie’s murder.

There was the travel agent from Galway who met a ‘frazzled’ Frenchman who mentioned west Cork the day after Sophie was killed. The man apparently booked a hotel next to the airport before leaving the country. He’s never been tracked down.

And now, Marie Farrell has apparently come forward once again, with a new identity for the man who she saw lingering outside her store on the afternoon before Sophie’s murder.

Ms Farrell claims that the man was standing outside her shop wearing a long dark coat while Sophie bought a copy of the French Le Monde newspaper inside and also claimed that she saw the same man on the night of the French woman’s murder at Kealfadda Bridge.

It is understood Ms Farrell has now formally identified the man after she was shown a picture of him by Murder at the Cottage maker Jim Sheridan.

It’s impossible to say if any of the men mentioned above were responsible for the horror that took place that night in Goleen. But, given the fact that the vast majority of the past quarter-century has been spent examining one former journalist and no notable new evidence has been unearthed against him, it might finally be time for a fresh Bailey-less look at the infamous murder in West Cork.
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Okay, so someone at work casually mentioned today, while talking about good quality sketch comedies, I think you should leave.

This was literally the first time my mind registered this series as existing, never mind noticing it on Netflix. But apart from my colleague’s very enthusiastic endorsement of it, I see that it also enjoys very positive reviews across the board.

I’ve just done a search ITT and unless I mistyped something it looks like nobody has ever talked about it in here. Has anyone watched it?

 
It’s a superb break up film wrapped in and around a folk horror. I appreciate its a divisive film but whoever doesnt like it is a blatant wrongun.

🤣

And who might you be then?

As for the break up storyline? For me...it was just a small part of the whole thing. I thought the boyfriend Chris was a total twat and a shite boyfriend... but the film was about way more than that. And I didn't actually say I didn't enjoy it. I dont generally sit through films unless I want to....
 
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I wish I’d thought it was creepy. TBF, my opinion of it has improved since I first saw it.

I was initially very disappointed with it, after loving the director’s superb previous film Hereditary, which was a proper horror film and then some, and also reading very positive reviews about this one. So I was expecting a similarly unsettling horror film, which Midsommer is most definitely not. Certainly not horror anyway.

But since then I have started to view it as a surreal dark comedy film, and in that light it feels much more agreeable.
how is it not a horror film? it’s 100% a horror film
 
Okay, so someone at work casually mentioned today, while talking about good quality sketch comedies, I think you should leave.

This was literally the first time my mind registered this series as existing, never mind noticing it on Netflix. But apart from my colleague’s very enthusiastic endorsement of it, I see that it also enjoys very positive reviews across the board.

I’ve just done a search ITT and unless I mistyped something it looks like nobody has ever talked about it in here. Has anyone watched it?

I enjoyed the first series, it's a bit hit and miss but generally good quality. Watched the first couple of sketches of the new show last night and it didn't seem to get off to a flying start. Had to switch it off because it bit a bit too sweary for my daughter.
 
Just watched the first two episides of Somos. I watch alot of Mexican series, this feels the best so far, quite different. Set in the north and follows families of different social classes. Lots of great swearing too!
 
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