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This is so insane
Every business that uses energy will be having problems, especially those that use a lot, like hairdressers, butchers, bakers* to say nothing of manufacturing, hospitals, schools, care homes...I hear chippies will be having problems, too
I am stealing this, using it elsewhere and totally claiming the credit for it. If anyone asks me about it, it will out them as an Urb.The government isn't merely asleep at the wheel on this, it's crashed through the barriers and is already over the cliff and it'll wake up in time to toot the horn indignantly at the upcoming ground whilst bleating about some irrelevant culture war bullshit.
Yes, if things continue on their current trajectory it will be unsustainable.Is there anyone that this isn't going to be a huge problem for...? Pubs and restaurants especially are going to be hit with a double whammy of a) forking out double, triple or more for the same energy they used last year whilst b) customers also facing slightly-less-horrendous-bills will still be cutting back on discretionary spending anyway. Running any sort of kitchen is always energy-intensive, and you need to keep the room passably temperate if you want people to eat or drink in it.
The government isn't merely asleep at the wheel on this, it's crashed through the barriers and is already over the cliff and it'll wake up in time to toot the horn indignantly at the upcoming ground whilst bleating about some irrelevant culture war bullshit. Even if we have a very mild winter, households, business and lives are already going to the wall over this. People have been screaming this from the rooftops since the invasion started but westminster seems to be genuinely disinterested other than using the crisis to further its own blinkered agenda (which at the moment seems to be about nothing but keeping the population so desperate and cowed that we'll put up with anything).
This is so insane
I suspect the landlord was probably just expressing his frustration which is fair enough since that leccy quote is basically just taking the piss. I suspect one of the silver linings of this very dark cloud is those businesses that can do things like this and render themselves at least partly energy self-sufficient will survive and prosper.I don’t get this - British Gas want over 60k a year for 64,000 kw/hrs
You could cover the entire pub in solar panels for less than 90k, and generate most of the power they need - especially because it is a business expense and you could capitalise it over at least 10 years.
For ref - I used a solar calculator from energy saving trust which calculated an 80kw solar system would generate about 64kw solar per year and would cost about 88k.
Is the break even on solar panels really currently less than 18 months ?
Alex
I suspect the landlord was probably just expressing his frustration which is fair enough since that leccy quote is basically just taking the piss. I suspect one of the silver linings of this very dark cloud is those businesses that can do things like this and render themselves at least partly energy self-sufficient will survive and prosper.
Have to go back to using hand saws.I hear chippies will be having problems, too
They do seem set on creating a perfect storm. And I still bet there are plenty of tory dickheads who say it is a good thing Corbyn didn't win as it would have been bad for the economy.I saw something that said 70% of pubs will go, vast swathes of small businesses, rise in unemployment, defaulting on mortgages etc etc. I really think this is going to make the financial crash look like a walk in the park.
And meanwhile Liz Truss is going to be in fucking charge.
Good piece by Aditya Chakrabortty below. He argues (rightly IMO) that we don't have a government at the moment.
These are energy bills many Britons simply can’t afford. Some will pay with their lives | Aditya Chakrabortty
This price hike threatens to create a whole new class of poor, and it is clear our wretched politics will do nothing to protect them, says Guardian columnist Aditya Chakraborttywww.theguardian.com
I saw something that said 70% of pubs will go, vast swathes of small businesses, rise in unemployment, defaulting on mortgages etc etc. I really think this is going to make the financial crash look like a walk in the park.
And meanwhile Liz Truss is going to be in fucking charge.
I am stealing this, using it elsewhere and totally claiming the credit for it. If anyone asks me about it, it will out them as an Urb.
have we had this yet?
Except wages.Of course such rises will mean everything will go up
Yup, was thinking exactly the same when reading the comments above.Once pubs and shops go out of business they'll be snapped up cheap by speculators, turned into housing and then it will become impossible to ever change them back into pubs or shops.
As always, profiteering twats who are already rich will make a fortune through all this, while actual jobs disappear forever.
Once pubs and shops go out of business they'll be snapped up cheap by speculators, turned into housing and then it will become impossible to ever change them back into pubs or shops.
As always, profiteering twats who are already rich will make a fortune through all this, while actual jobs disappear forever.
Once pubs and shops go out of business they'll be snapped up cheap by speculators, turned into housing and then it will become impossible to ever change them back into pubs or shops.
As always, profiteering twats who are already rich will make a fortune through all this, while actual jobs disappear forever.
Good Law Project weighs in:
Let's hear it once more for the free market, everyone! Huzzah!Sad thing is most pub are already either balls deep in debt to brewers or already run by speculative arseholes
Yeah, I was talking to someone about that yesterday. Some people and companies are going to make a load of money out of all the failing businesses, it'll make plenty of high streets and town centres even more dominated by chains, charity and pawn shops, and boarded up places.
The local very small specialist ale bar and shop that's run as a labour of love by 2 brothers and is a great hassle free and friendly place announced they're likely to be going under last week due to energy bills. Don't imagine anyone will take on the space for the forseeable future.