Micky D
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Fossil fuels are what keeps the lights on , not the unreliables of solar / wind
My electricity bill has just tripled: how about yours? Alternative suppliers?
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Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Because we’ve not built enough of the fucking things and now it’s 20 degrees on New Year’s Day.
This is entirely a gas issue and a problem the governments given us
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
So what is your solution for future generations, or is your solution to just fuck them over?
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
Well your lights are on, but nobody's home.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
If anyone ever offers you a penny for your thoughts, you should sell.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Have a look at "Gridwatch" - but not just once or twice.
Really study how the various supply sectors respond to the demands of the grid, depending on what's synchronised and how the weather is behaving. Watch how the sources interplay ...
FYI it takes several hours to "heat up" the boilers at a fossil fuel powered plant, or you are using up a lot of fuel to keep them 'nearly' ready to generate. Planning for what is needed [as in 'for the next five minutes' as well as 'for the next decade'] is the black art and has been royally mucked about by both privatisation / subsidy policies and largely ignoring climate / environmental factors ...
The UK's [and the world's] problem is that storing electricity, at the quantity required by the grid / consumers is very difficult.
In case anyone wants to know - FYI[2] - I used to work for a company that was in the relevant engineering field - ie power generation & distribution.
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
That sound a really interesting job. It really excites my inner geek even at a 33kV 11kV level, switching ,fusing and various redundancies, where the underground cables, just seem to magically pop up out of the ground and connect into the overhead network it seems to random and where do they go underground
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Airfryer - which one is best?
Right, I want to buy an airfryer so I can live on nowt but chips. So which one is best in your experience (links please)? Budget not an issue (within reason). Apart from chips I would like the device to be able to cook roast veg and other stuff too - mainly for one.
www.urban75.net
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Unless you're using gas turbines.
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
The thread Artaxerxes pointed you to is the best resource, but short answer to your question is definitely yes! Just last night Mrs C wanted some “potato buns” as a snack tea and switched the oven on. (They’re like circular hash browns and come from the freezer section of the supermarket).
I switched off the oven, stuck them in the airfryer and put it in on at 200C - ten mins later they were done. The fan oven would only just have been up to temp to put them in for a 15 min cook, but the airfryer which has a warm-up time of under a minute, had cooked them to a nice crispy finish in 10 mins start to finish.
10 mins running a 1300W airfryer or 25 mins running a 2,000W fan oven - it’s clear which is the most energy efficient choice by a mile.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Depends ...Unless you're using gas turbines.
Using the gas exhaust to push turbines is only part of the generating capacity, much more efficient to boil water, as well. And it is that heating which takes the time.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Yes but turbines get up to speed faster. Jet aircraft would be pretty useless if you had to wait an hour before you could take off.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Yeah, I know, but only using gas to run the turbine wastes a lot of heat / energy ... that's why the majority of stations are "combined cycle" and running both sides is the most efficient way. It's two different ways to turn the generator ... one uses exhaust gases but the other is conventional steam, and much slower to get up to optimal operating state.Yes but turbines get up to speed faster. Jet aircraft would be pretty useless if you had to wait an hour before you could take off.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Micky D
Member
Right back at ya : )
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. And don't believe everything you are told, grasshopper.
Micky D
Member
Im reading the comments thats whats altering my opinion on most of you
Raheem
Well-Known Member
This is fascinating, but when I find myself somewhere I didn't want to be, what I do is fuck off.
Micky D
Member
Like i said i was under the impression a lot of you were left wing / radical - disappointing to find out you're mostly as wet as the Guardian readers you occasionally disparage
Raheem
Well-Known Member
OK. So you've said it and now you've said it again. Are you going to fuck off, or just hang around repeating the same thing over and over as if it's going to get more interesting?
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Although (onshore) wind and solar are the cheapest forms of energy.
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Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Yeah because trusting the fossil fuel companies to get us out of the mess they created is absolutely a radical and establishment breaking idea. Fight the power, its a left wing position to get behind BP and continue fossil fuel extraction, lets frak the entire of Lancashire and I'm sure that won't have any negative effects on anyone living there.
Its only been 40 years since the companies knew for a fact they were setting the planet on fire.
Micky D
Member
Its a left wing position to make life as good as possible for the working class and if that means cheap reliable energy via fossil fuels as opposed to unreliables like wind then im for fossil fuels - our whole progress via the industrial revolution has been based on them . Happy to have a mix which includes nuclear but i dare say some on here have swallowed the eco propaganda whole and would protest against it . You lot are not socialist by any measure - just middle class southern trendies who probably identified with XR twerps on top of the tube trains the other year as opposed to the working class heroes trying to drag them off
Micky D
Member
Wet and hostile
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
This explains why countries with more renewable energy infrastructure are suffering the most from the spike in energy prices. Of course if the exact opposite of that had happened, that'd make it look like you were full of shit.
Micky D
Member
There is no mess , armageddon is not happening its not round the corner or on the horizon yiuve been sold a pup
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the standard of edgelord trolls we get nowadays is very poor indeed. We're dealing with humans who couldn't pass the Turing test.
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