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I've been offered a smart meter (2nd generation) Is there any reason not to have installed?
Had mine about 7 years now and still dont have cancer ....
I've been offered a smart meter (2nd generation) Is there any reason not to have installed?
I do hope those tins are earthed
From what I can tell, the only potential downside is that you're effectively giving your electricity provider a very fine-grained level of data on your electricity usage. That may or may not bother you.I've been offered a smart meter (2nd generation) Is there any reason not to have installed?
There are meter readers still? I haven't seen one in at least 6 years! And I only got the new meter last year.And, going forward, they will be able to use the Smart meter for "surge pricing" and they can also disconnect you remotely, and they can sack all the meter readers
Yep. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing in it for me to have a smart meter installed, so I have been studiously ignoring Bulb's repeated entreaties to book a meter installation. My current meter is one of the old-school mechanical ones (but with a row of digits, rather than the dials).And, going forward, they will be able to use the Smart meter for "surge pricing" and they can also disconnect you remotely, and they can sack all the meter readers
There's a variety of means, but the lowest common denominator seems to be a meter with some kind of SIM that can talk to some kind of mobile network. There are all kinds of other options, each with their own advantages and disadvantages, and you won't be surprised to learn that it's not exactly an "open" topic.How do they get the readings back at "head office" then?
Again, genuine question, I don't know
No it's ok gentlegreen earths them periodically when he touches themI do hope those tins are earthed
"could you please use your pottery kiln at a different time of day ?"I like smart meters cos then you dont have to let some cunt in the house and move all the shit from under the stairs so he can look at it
It's also handy if you grow weed, cos then they don't come around and smell the weed.... not that i grow weed obvs
I was going to say I have a thermometer wired into the 12 volt supply in the bathroom and I'm always careful to remove it from the water before I get in just in case the interference suppressing "Y"capacitor is sub-par - you can often get a bit of a tingle off SMPSUs in any case ...No it's ok gentlegreen earths them periodically when he touches them
That's a year off probably - I have to get all the stuff I'm keeping into my bed / living room first ...How is the rewiring going gentlegreen?
I was going to say I have a thermometer wired into the 12 volt supply in the bathroom and I'm always careful to remove it from the water before I get in just in case the interference suppressing "Y"capacitor is sub-par - you can often get a bit of a tingle off SMPSUs in any case ...
You don't have to justify yourself to us.I like smart meters cos then you dont have to let some cunt in the house and move all the shit from under the stairs so he can look at it
It's also handy if you grow weed, cos then they don't come around and smell the weed.... not that i grow weed obvs
The BG dude who fitted mine told me that the electric one had a built in SIM card and that the gas one (and the smart meter thingy in the kitchen) connected wirelessly to it.There's a variety of means, but the lowest common denominator seems to be a meter with some kind of SIM that can talk to some kind of mobile network. There are all kinds of other options, each with their own advantages and disadvantages, and you won't be surprised to learn that it's not exactly an "open" topic.
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That last bit would be the main motivation for me having one, although I've done an end run around that by putting my own gadget on the supply (as mentioned upthread). Open source and configurable in a way I suspect the smart meters aren't...You don't have to justify yourself to us.
The BG dude who fitted mine told me that the electric one had a built in SIM card and that the gas one (and the smart meter thingy in the kitchen) connected wirelessly to it.
I moved to smart meters a few years ago simply because all the cheapest deals were conditional on me getting a smart meter, watching the amount used by various devices on the kitchen smart meter thingy was fascinating at first but not really telling me anything I couldn't figure out by looking at the plate on the bottom/back of devices and doing a bit of mental arithmetic.
"could you please use your pottery kiln at a different time of day ?"
If it's any use I have two Manrose Mixflow extractors and they're 25w each.There's 2 extractor fans, one in the kitchen and one in the bathroom, the kitchen one can certainly be on for quite some time, but again, I don't think that they are "that" power hungry, but when you're looking for "around" a KW of energy consumption, every little counts, I spose
We have one Xpelair and one Greenwood - can't remember the exact models but looking on their websites for similar they both "look" to be about 30-50watts each max - the bathroom might be on for 1hr a day(??) the kitchen for 3hr a day(??), so max on both .2KW usage, again, every little helps, as they sayIf it's any use I have two Manrose Mixflow extractors and they're 25w each.
mind the kW vs kWh to avoid confusion, but interestingI'm just starting to bottom the whole "how much electricity do I use and on what" conundrum
After switched off completely the central heating and resorting to one hours manual over-ride for hot water (GAS boiler but rest, obviously using electricity) I ended up with a new daily electrify consumption low of 4.8KW - so this is what I need to break down as to how it's being used
This morning I looked at the meter and the consumption was 5.6KW and I'd predicted that the usage would be between 5.5 - 6KW so pretty much bang on . . . the difference was one ECO dishwasher cycle with a published energy usage of .74KW, so that checks out
Back to the 4.8KW - well I know that the fridge freezer uses 1KW / day - so that's 3.8KW to account for
The TV "plug" uses about .3KW during the day
The router "plug" uses about .15KW during the day
The central heating / hot water (all things on this), I'm estimating uses .1KW for 1 hours usage
Kettle, again, guessing it's a 2-3KW kettle, used twice during the day, only filled as to what's needed, say 15minutes total, best guess .6KW
Toaster, used once a day, best guess .2KW
Various light bulbs around the house, they are now all LED bulbs, quick count up 15-20 bulbs some not used at all, some on most of the day (it's a dark house built into a hill so the living room has no direct sunlight) . . . maybe .8-1KW in the day
Now I'm hunting round to find around 1.75KWs of electrical consumption in a 24 hour period
Things that have so little consumption that you can't actually get a reading in a 24hr period but will still use electricity:-
2 x cats feeders
1 x cat water fountain
These look like they're only using 4watts combined, so maybe .1KWh
1 additional land line phone base / charger
There's a plug on the landing that is "used" for various things - but again, I'm guessing that's usage will be below .3KWh for a 24hr period
Getting there, maybe around 1KW left to account for
There's 2 extractor fans, one in the kitchen and one in the bathroom, the kitchen one can certainly be on for quite some time, but again, I don't think that they are "that" power hungry, but when you're looking for "around" a KW of energy consumption, every little counts, I spose
I'm just starting to bottom the whole "how much electricity do I use and on what" conundrum
After switched off completely the central heating and resorting to one hours manual over-ride for hot water (GAS boiler but rest, obviously using electricity) I ended up with a new daily electrify consumption low of 4.8KW - so this is what I need to break down as to how it's being used
This morning I looked at the meter and the consumption was 5.6KW and I'd predicted that the usage would be between 5.5 - 6KW so pretty much bang on . . . the difference was one ECO dishwasher cycle with a published energy usage of .74KW, so that checks out
Back to the 4.8KW - well I know that the fridge freezer uses 1KW / day - so that's 3.8KW to account for
The TV "plug" uses about .3KW during the day
The router "plug" uses about .15KW during the day
The central heating / hot water (all things on this), I'm estimating uses .1KW for 1 hours usage
Kettle, again, guessing it's a 2-3KW kettle, used twice during the day, only filled as to what's needed, say 15minutes total, best guess .6KW
Toaster, used once a day, best guess .2KW
Various light bulbs around the house, they are now all LED bulbs, quick count up 15-20 bulbs some not used at all, some on most of the day (it's a dark house built into a hill so the living room has no direct sunlight) . . . maybe .8-1KW in the day
Now I'm hunting round to find around 1.75KWs of electrical consumption in a 24 hour period
Things that have so little consumption that you can't actually get a reading in a 24hr period but will still use electricity:-
2 x cats feeders
1 x cat water fountain
These look like they're only using 4watts combined, so maybe .1KWh
1 additional land line phone base / charger
There's a plug on the landing that is "used" for various things - but again, I'm guessing that's usage will be below .3KWh for a 24hr period
Getting there, maybe around 1KW left to account for
There's 2 extractor fans, one in the kitchen and one in the bathroom, the kitchen one can certainly be on for quite some time, but again, I don't think that they are "that" power hungry, but when you're looking for "around" a KW of energy consumption, every little counts, I spose
Absolutely positive. The only "outside" light we've got is a flame effect LED bulb which is switched off and is super low wattage any wayAre you sure you don’t have any incandescent or halogen bulbs still in use somewhere unobvious? Outside light or garage or basement or something? A 100w bulb on for 17 hours would cover your excess.