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Qanon bonus pack. The UK truthers are riddled with it. Not only shadowy elites trying to kill us all, they are all nonces. Google pizza gate and/or evergreen conspiracy for a intro.

Aware of Pizzagate, just didn't know the USA paedo obsession had reached our homegrown loons.
 
Qanon bonus pack. The UK truthers are riddled with it. Not only shadowy elites trying to kill us all, they are all nonces. Google pizza gate and/or evergreen conspiracy for a intro.
In the wake of the Epstein revelations?
 
so how should we present the facts to the non-believers in a way they can digest it without feeling like they're being told?

I believe there have been studies showing that presenting facts can in fact harden a person's position. I think lived experience is going to be much more effective than any presentation of facts could ever be. So the more people who get the jab and then fail to die or become robots, the less traction anti-vaxx rhetoric will have.
 
In the wake of the Epstein revelations?
Ironically a lot of them have zero interests in that. No seering satisfying emotion when its something the whole world knows. In qanon circles Epstein is rarely mentioned. Hilary Clinton eating children is. They've projected demons. Only they are privvy to knowing they are operating.
 
Global scientific consensus doesn't hold much sway amongst anyone.

Doesn't it? It does with me. I'm obviously aware the commerciality corrupts and some science is biased, some will be disproved and updated, some will be built on, but as I have little scientific or research training, what would I go to ahead of the majority consensus of those who do?
Your own research.
 
People know what they know. I know shit tons about building management, and almost nothing nothing about physics. I'm glad I have that grounding iyswim, some sort of awareness about what I should and shouldn't talk about
 
The only conspiracy I have time for is that covid 19 was an accidental release from the virus reasearch lab in Wuhan. This is completely ignored by this lot because they are all crisis actors working for the Chinese communist state.
 
People know what they know. I know shit tons about building management, and almost nothing nothing about physics. I'm glad I have that grounding iyswim, some sort of awareness about what I should and shouldn't talk about
If you drop someone from the roof of a building you manage they will accelerate at 9.80665m/s^2 until they hit the ground
 
We have to remember these loons are still basically a fringe movement, that happens to be very vocal, but seem to be making little overall impact, in fact the opposite.

Almost 40 million adults/75% [over 18's] have had their first jab, leaving 13 million to go, we have around 10.5 million in the 18-29 age groups, whilst some would have received their jabs for various reasons, they have largely not been invited for theirs yet, and there's around another 3 million in their 30s that are still in the line for theirs.

So the numbers refusing the jab will be fairly small.

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Positive vaccine sentiment increased between December 2020 and May 2021 across all age groups. Over 9 in 10 (95%) adults have now received or would be very or fairly likely to accept a COVID-19 vaccine if offered (19 to 23 May 2021). The percentage of people reporting positive vaccine sentiment is lower among younger than older adults, but differences between age groups have narrowed since December.

Last updated: 28/05/2021

 
Anyone know what's a sensible estimate of attendance at this shit show? The Sun have video showing thousands that they've labelled as hundreds, The Guardian say thousands, some knob head on Facebook who I called out for saying the media weren't reporting it has now changed to to 'well they aren't admitting it's was a million'.

I'm guessing a few thousand?
I think the sun are trolling them there
 
We have to remember these loons are still basically a fringe movement, that happens to be very vocal, but seem to be making little overall impact, in fact the opposite.

Almost 40 million adults/75% [over 18's] have had their first jab, leaving 13 million to go, we have around 10.5 million in the 18-29 age groups, whilst some would have received their jabs for various reasons, they have largely not been invited for theirs yet, and there's around another 3 million in their 30s that are still in the line for theirs.

So the numbers refusing the jab will be fairly small.

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You're remarkably vocal about a group you assert is so marginal and ineffectual
 
I believe there have been studies showing that presenting facts can in fact harden a person's position. I think lived experience is going to be much more effective than any presentation of facts could ever be. So the more people who get the jab and then fail to die or become robots, the less traction anti-vaxx rhetoric will have.
Offer them a vaccination against the covid vaccine that contains live covid then they can really live the experience. :)
 
I believe there have been studies showing that presenting facts can in fact harden a person's position. I think lived experience is going to be much more effective than any presentation of facts could ever be. So the more people who get the jab and then fail to die or become robots, the less traction anti-vaxx rhetoric will have.

This is pretty depressing if true. Could you link to the study?
 
This is pretty depressing if true. Could you link to the study?

This isn't it, but it is recent and relevant:


Edit: In summary, the state of knowledge on this topic is inconclusive, with no robust empirical evidence for the effect I mentioned. I think it's reasonable to conclude that there is still value in presenting the facts, and regardless of the efficacy of such presentations, positive examples in real life still matter. So get jabbed and talk about it.
 
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The SWP isn't very active around. :D

These twats are.
Carry on then but I think getting so excited and worked up over people whose sound and fury signifies nothing isn't perhaps the best use of your time here and you'd be better off posting pictures of cats in the bandwidth thread to calm yourself down
 
Wonder how many of the marchers have sneaked off and had a crafty jab, but not told their mate, partner, relative etc, who they are marching with.
 
Okay, I'll keep it polite and hope you engage with this question. Where will you be at say 6 months from now if it looks like the virus has been at least controlled/managed, in regions/countries where the vaccine has been given to a high % of the population? Ditto, if there have been no signs of clear measurable trends with regard to birth defects or vaccine damage. And, of course I'm aware that there have been a very small number of deaths and blood clots - horrible for those affected but entirely within what is expected for mass vaccinations. Something to be taken account of in any normal cost benefit analysis, in a pandemic that his killed hundreds of thousands. [just to be clear, I think we've reached the point of seeing that the vaccination programme is effective and safe right now, but let's put that aside]

With that information, would you see yourself keeping away from the sites you now look at? Would your world view shift?
 
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