More police brutality than you can shake a stick at.

[teqniq]

More phone-related stuff, at least this guy didn't die or have the crap beaten out of him. But really that's not saying much.

 

[CRI]

This is really fucked up. Yet another white person who thinks they're entitled to call the cops on POC because they "feel nervous" in their presence.

Mom Suspects Racism After Sons Are Pulled From College Tour

The brothers had joined the tour on Monday after it started, and their mother — who had stayed home in New Mexico — said she learned afterward that the two had been quieter than others in the group during the walk through campus, which apparently prompted one woman to call police.

Lorraine Kahneratokwas Gray described receiving a frantic phone call from her son, 19-year-old Thomas Kanewakeron Gray, about the incident at Colorado State University. . . He and his 17-year-old brother, Lloyd Skanahwati Gray, had saved enough money to drive roughly seven hours from the family’s home in Santa Cruz, New Mexico, to Fort Collins to tour the campus, she told the AP.

During the tour, a campus police officer approached the brothers and confirmed they were part of the admissions tour, according to the school. The mother said the older brother had been able to show the officer an email on his phone confirming their spots on the tour. By then, however, their tour group had moved on without them and the brothers left the campus and returned home to New Mexico.

Gray described her sons as teenagers who like to express themselves through contemporary music and traditional songs. The family is Mohawk, and lived in upstate New York before moving to New Mexico

 

[Pickman's model]

More phone-related stuff, at least this guy didn't die or have the crap beaten out of him. But really that's not saying much.

Not saying much at all as a/c suspended - take screenshots!

 

[CRI]

Link to the woman's Facebook post including video here. Christ

They really need to charge the racists who do this with wasting police time, and hell, no idea what do do with the racist cops, there are so many of the fuckers.

 

[spring-peeper]

^^^^ GRRRR!!!!


Guess I'll add this one ->

Arreola had stopped at the Chevron station for some cash on the way to a club at 10 p.m. March 16, he told the Register. His wife asked him to buy her a pack of Mentos, too.

In the video, the off-duty officer enters the gas station mini-mart and gets in line behind Arreola as he puts the mints in his jacket pocket while waiting for his change from the clerk.


“Hey, put that back,” the officer says. “Police officer.”

Arreola, confused, turns to face the man, who pulls a pistol from his pocket and holds it ready.

“Oh! I paid for it,” a shocked Arreola says. The officer continues to demand that Arreola return the mints while holding the gun as Arreola insists he paid for the candy and looks to the clerk for help.

Arreola, flustered, puts the mints and change on the counter as the clerk remains silent.

“Try stealing that again,” the officer taunts him. “Get your cash and leave.”

The clerk hands Arreola the rest of his change. Arreola backs toward the door with his hands up.

“Did he pay for this?” the officer, who seems perplexed, asks the clerk, who says yes. “He paid for it? Are you sure?” The clerk confirms that Arreola purchased the candy.

He bought a $1.19 roll of Mentos. Then an off-duty cop drew a gun on him, video shows

The radio comments on this was that the customer was brown - "you wouldn't expect them to draw a gun on a white person for stealing candy, would you?"


grrrrr

 

[CRI]

Link to the woman's Facebook post including video here. Christ

They really need to charge the racists who do this with wasting police time, and hell, no idea what do do with the racist cops, there are so many of the fuckers.

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Bob Marley's granddaughter detained by US police

California police earlier this week detained Jamaican actress and filmmaker Donisha Prendergast, the granddaughter of reggae legend Bob Marley, and three of her friends as they were leaving an AirBnB home to prepare for a socially conscious event they organised.

 

[JuanTwoThree]

Not a cop and not particularly physically brutal, but policing in a wide sense and brutish:

Outrage After Celebrating Black Graduates Are Yanked Off College's Stage

 

[teqniq]

Not saying much at all as a/c suspended - take screenshots!

I didn't take screenshots in this instance as the thread was very long.

 

[CRI]

Not a cop and not particularly physically brutal, but policing in a wide sense and brutish:

Outrage After Celebrating Black Graduates Are Yanked Off College's Stage

Saw that. Nasty as was the university's non apology and white parents justifying it on social media.

 

[teqniq]

Not saying much at all as a/c suspended - take screenshots!

And now as you can see it's back up again.

 

[CRI]

 

[spring-peeper]

A white person voices suspicions about an innocuous person of color. Police are summoned. And the encounter is posted on social media, sparking outrage about racial profiling.

In what is becoming an all-too familiar episode, a black Yale University graduate student was interrogated by campus police officers early Tuesday morning after a white student found her sleeping in a common room of their dorm and called police.
The black student, Lolade Siyonbola, posted two videos of the encounter to Facebook, where they have been widely viewed and drawn thousands of comments.
"I deserve to be here. I pay tuition like everybody else," an annoyed Siyonbola told responding officers in one video after they asked for her ID. "I'm not going to justify my existence here."

A black Yale graduate student was reported to police for napping in her dorm - CNN

 

[Pickman's model]

A black Yale graduate student was reported to police for napping in her dorm - CNN

Perhaps we need a thread for racist police because try as I might I'm not seeing the violence which police brutality suggests.

 

[a_chap]

Perhaps we need a thread for racist police

That would go into the U75 tautology thread, Shirley.

 

[Pickman's model]

That would go into the U75 tautology thread, Shirley.

Fair point. Some sort of police harassment thread then. I've had some shit stops and racist treatment off the cops, but wouldn't equate it with police brutality

 

[CRI]

Perhaps we need a thread for racist police because try as I might I'm not seeing the violence which police brutality suggests.

We must have different understanding of what 'police brutality' means then. I don't believe it requires a person to be beaten to a bloody pulp to qualify. There are plenty of examples of physical violence here though, but also verbal abuse, threats and public shaming of POC. There's also the psychological violence of knowing that if the police are called on you and you're Black, the situ could morph into serious physical violence on a heartbeat.

Remember the much higher rates of deaths in custody and after police intervention involving people of colour (especially Black people, in the US and UK), than for white people.

Calling the cops on Black people is more likely to result in them being seriously injured or killed then if it were white people. There are umpteen examples on this thread of white people doing just this for quite spurious reasons.

Maybe some of them are too dense to realise the potential outcome of calling the cops on a Black person, if they've only experienced white folks getting at most a firm ticking off in the same situ.

More likely, they know, don't care and feel entitled to get the police to rid them Black people when they feel 'nervous' because society affirms that their feelings are more important than any risks to the Black person.

If most of police brutality examples seem to involve POC as victims, that's just illustrating institutional racism of the police.

 

[Pickman's model]

We must have different understanding of what 'police brutality' means then. I don't believe it requires a person to be beaten to a bloody pulp to qualify. There are plenty of examples of physical violence here though, but also verbal abuse, threats and public shaming of POC. There's also the psychological violence of knowing that if the police are called on you and you're Black, the situ could morph into serious physical violence on a heartbeat.

Remember the much higher rates of deaths in custody and after police intervention involving people of colour (especially Black people, in the US and UK), than for white people.

Calling the cops on Black people is more likely to result in them being seriously injured or killed then if it were white people. There are umpteen examples on this thread of white people doing just this for quite spurious reasons.

Maybe some of them are too dense to realise the potential outcome of calling the cops on a Black person, if they've only experienced white folks getting at most a firm ticking off in the same situ.

More likely, they know, don't care and feel entitled to get the police to rid them Black people when they feel 'nervous' because society affirms that their feelings are more important than any risks to the Black person.

If most of police brutality examples seem to involve POC as victims, that's just illustrating institutional racism of the police.

i'd agree with this definition

which involves 'excessive use of force'. i don't deny that being treated differently due to the colour of one's skin is vile: as is, ime, being held under the prevention of terrorism act for being irish, as i was for the heinous offence of wearing a celtic shirt. if it is to have any meaning police brutality must involve the use of force, the excessive and/or misdirected use of force. what happened to this yale student is a long way off what happened to e.g. rodney king. i'm by no means condoning the behaviour of the yale cops, but it's not police brutality! we can continue filling this thread with instances of unhappy contact with the police. but it's my contention that this dilutes your actual police brutality, your actual police murder, by equating stupid encounters which end with no one being injured with the murder of sandra bland.

 

[CRI]

i'd agree with this definition
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which involves 'excessive use of force'. i don't deny that being treated differently due to the colour of one's skin is vile: as is, ime, being held under the prevention of terrorism act for being irish, as i was for the heinous offence of wearing a celtic shirt. if it is to have any meaning police brutality must involve the use of force, the excessive and/or misdirected use of force. what happened to this yale student is a long way off what happened to e.g. rodney king. i'm by no means condoning the behaviour of the yale cops, but it's not police brutality! we can continue filling this thread with instances of unhappy contact with the police. but it's my contention that this dilutes your actual police brutality, your actual police murder, by equating stupid encounters which end with no one being injured with the murder of sandra bland.

Fuck this "it's just unhappy contact with the police and not real brutality" bullshit. There are plenty of posts here that went from basic racist cop being shitty to a POC to dead victim in the space of a sneeze. Black folks and cops know this and the latter seem to get off on using it to control and humiliate their victims. And that's not brutality, huh?

Do you also think no one should post examples on a domestic abuse thread unless the victim ended up badly injured or dead? A person intimidating, publicly shaming, threatening and accusing their partner of lying is just "unhappy contact" so no shakes? Ditto for sexual violence - not a big deal unless it's an actual violent rape.

Hell no.

Don't like my posts on this thread? Put me on ignore.

 

[CRI]

A black Yale graduate student was reported to police for napping in her dorm - CNN

The accuser sounds a nasty piece of work. She'd previously reported another Black Yale student and friend of the sleeping woman to the cops as well, when he asked her for directions after getting lost in the building.

And she wrote this om 2010- removed today from the Humanist website after all the kerfuffle, but available via Waybackmachine.

We were studying the American Civil War in one of my middle school social studies classes when we were charged with the task of debating the pros and cons of slavery. . . as if we were abolitionists or southern plantation owners during Abraham Lincoln’s presidency.

I read about the trials and tribulations of both escaped and freed slaves. I read about the cruel world waiting to pounce mercilessly upon penniless, illiterate, and uneducated former slaves . . . And then I had a eureka moment. Some—not many, but some—of the slaves didn’t want to stop being slaves. A small number wanted to remain with their owners or return even after being freed.

I knew I had just won the debate. And indeed, I did. I led our team to victory. The pro-slavery contingent defeated the abolitionists because, in a democracy, in the land of the free, who are we to tell people that they can’t be slaves if they want to be? Who are we to tell someone that she has to be free? Who are we to tell someone that she has to be regarded as fully human? It doesn’t matter that the alternative to slavery, which would mean walking away from everything one had ever known to recreate life anew without any resources, was regarded as healthier and more dignified. It was still the individual’s choice to make.

She goes on to make a bullshit point about how leaving the church she grew up in as being just like "turning away from slavery," then some other bollocks about Muslim women being enslaved. Trash.

 

[Pickman's model]

Fuck this "it's just unhappy contact with the police and not real brutality" bullshit. There are plenty of posts here that went from basic racist cop being shitty to a POC to dead victim in the space of a sneeze. Black folks and cops know this and the latter seem to get off on using it to control and humiliate their victims. And that's not brutality, huh?

Do you also think no one should post examples on a domestic abuse thread unless the victim ended up badly injured or dead? A person intimidating, publicly shaming, threatening and accusing their partner of lying is just "unhappy contact" so no shakes? Ditto for sexual violence - not a big deal unless it's an actual violent rape.

Hell no.

Don't like my posts on this thread? Put me on ignore.

I don't like your posts because you're like gwb, everyone is either with you or against you. Because this thread is for you all about race and the US whereas for me it's about police and the violence inherent in policing, across the world. Smiley Culture. Harry Stanley. Mark Duggan. Blair Peach. Aidan McAnespie. Sandra Bland. It's about class. But most of all it's about force, about the state, about the effective sanctioning of the use of the state's monopoly of violence against people without power be they black white green or blue: it's about power in its rawest form. And shitty interactions with the cops by themselves, though shitty, tho they can turn into police brutality, aren't imo adding anything to this thread.

 

[rekil]

I am not one bit surprised to see the likes of CRI slapping content from the odious Ben Norton here.

A person who spent 30 years in the CIA got manhandled a bit. Oh noes.

 

[teqniq]

 

[CRI]

I don't like your posts because you're like gwb, everyone is either with you or against you. Because this thread is for you all about race and the US whereas for me it's about police and the violence inherent in policing, across the world. Smiley Culture. Harry Stanley. Mark Duggan. Blair Peach. Aidan McAnespie. Sandra Bland. It's about class. But most of all it's about force, about the state, about the effective sanctioning of the use of the state's monopoly of violence against people without power be they black white green or blue: it's about power in its rawest form. And shitty interactions with the cops by themselves, though shitty, tho they can turn into police brutality, aren't imo adding anything to this thread.

White guy says "it's all about class and race is a side issue," shocker.

It's possible for there to be several different conversations on one thread without some people getting arsey and insisting everyone must only write the things they want to read and in the way they want to read them.

I suggested you put me on ignore if you don't like what I say or how I say things. If you still want to goad, feel free, but you'll be shouting into the ether. Bye now.

 

[Pickman's model]

White guy says it's all about class shocker. Good for you.

Okay, I suggested you put me on ignore, but you want to goad. Be my guest. I don't have to listen though. Bye!

if by goad you mean disagree, then yes, yes i do. but i deliberately listed people killed by the police who were black and white. but you'd far rather ignore the issue of power and see this as a racial issue. which ignores all the other things going on. it's disappointing but your only decent posts on this site have been on the bandwidth thread and everything else you've posted has shown a refusal to engage with other people, not just me, and to see everything in a very blinkered way. it's really rather sad.

but if you'd rather live in world where no one disagrees with you, then it's ta-ra chuck

 

[butchersapron]

I am not one bit surprised to see the likes of CRI slapping content from the odious Ben Norton here.

A person who spent 30 years in the CIA got manhandled a bit. Oh noes.

Excellent - she's now posting what is effectively alt-right stuff so confused has obsessive conspiracy-liberal-anti-racism become.

 

[CRI]

Economic anxiety, innit?

 

[CRI]

White Wisconsin Police Officer Caught on Camera Punching Black Teen in Face



Brutal enough?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

What's your take on that?

 

[CRI]

What's your take on that?

That the punching was uncalled for. You don't have to punch someone to restrain them.

 

[Badgers]