More police brutality than you can shake a stick at.

[Pickman's model]

Two cops shot at a Dallas protest about police violence. TV news said 20 shots in rapid succession heard. Going to be a bad summer.

Now 4 transit cops shot, one dead.

Now 10 cops shot, 3 dead, 2 snipers.

This is that rare month then, in which as matters stand more cops have been killed thus far than black men killed by cops. Of course by month's end things will be back to normal.

 

[Pickman's model]

How long before the peelers take revenge?

Sure they cause trouble everywhere
One day you'll die and go to heaven
And there'll be no policemen there

 

[Idris2002]

Two cops shot at a Dallas protest about police violence. TV news said 20 shots in rapid succession heard. Going to be a bad summer.

Now 4 transit cops shot, one dead.

Now 10 cops shot, 3 dead, 2 snipers.

What did they think was going to happen?

 

[Idris2002]

"None of us wanted it to come to this, but millions of us feel like this country has backed us into a corner. I'm known as an optimist, but I feel like we may see some things spiral out of control if we don't see real reforms soon. The challenge with that is that America stopped making meaningful reforms on issues that matter decades ago."

KING: Deaths of Sterling, Castile take America to boiling point

 

[DaveCinzano]

Make that five

 

[cyril_smear]

"ambush style attack" I'm sick of hearing it already, I've only been up 90 minutes.

 

[Flavour]

would not want to be a black man in the United States right now, that's all i can say.

 

[Maharani]

You should, especially the most recent one, the school worker from Minnesota.

What struck me was the calm strength of his girlfriend, who videotaped the aftermath.

Philandio Castile is a martyr. Trayvon Martin is a martyr. We who might come to benefit because of their sacrifice, owe it to them to bear witness to their sacrifice, no matter how frightening, gut-wrenching and infuriating it might be to do so.

I couldn't believe her calm. It was so strange.

 

[Idris2002]

I couldn't believe her calm. It was so strange.

She was probably still in shock.

 

[Idris2002]

4 dead now confirmed. One of the 'snipers' has handed himself in.
This fella Mark Hughes the police are searching for already handed his weapon to a police officer.

Mark Hughes has now been confirmed as not one of the snipers.

 

[Maharani]

She was probably still in shock.

That poor child being held outside and seeing her mother on her knees like that. Cunts.

I understand the anger that's mounting and rightly so but these police officer shootings are just misdirecting the media attention onto their deaths and not the deaths of the innocent men and now the police are getting praised by Obama and the police chiefs. I'm not sure what works though. Peaceful protest doesn't get you fucking anywhere in these situations. I thought they'd be riots...

 

[cyril_smear]

. I thought they'd be riots...

Give it 12 hours.

 

[Pickman's model]

Give it 12 hours.

Yeh cos they're, what, five hours behind us?

 

[Pickman's model]

That poor child being held outside and seeing her mother on her knees like that. Cunts.

I understand the anger that's mounting and rightly so but these police officer shootings are just misdirecting the media attention onto their deaths and not the deaths of the innocent men and now the police are getting praised by Obama and the police chiefs. I'm not sure what works though. Peaceful protest doesn't get you fucking anywhere in these situations. I thought they'd be riots...

So you think riots would redirect the media attention

I don't think media attention the main motive force in this

 

[Maharani]

So you think riots would redirect the media attention

I don't think media attention the main motive force in this

I don't know. I wasn't connecting riots with media attention. I was just surmising.

 

[SpookyFrank]

This is that rare month then, in which as matters stand more cops have been killed thus far than black men killed by cops. Of course by month's end things will be back to normal.

20 people were killed by US cops in the first week of July. So the cops are still in the lead even for this month.

 

[cyril_smear]

Yeh cos they're, what, five hours behind us?

I think it'll start getting heated about dinner time over there and bricks in wheelbarrows by about 4pm.

 

[bi0boy]

Lots of false flag claims already. It's part of an extended plot to deprive citizens of their assault rifles.

 

[Ranbay]

just read the comments live on the top right.... makes me sick

 

[chilango]

Was watching this documentary on BBC the other night. Sickening to see video after video after video of cops just out and out murdering black men.

Dallas doesn't surprise me one bit.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I understand the anger that's mounting and rightly so but these police officer shootings are just misdirecting the media attention onto their deaths and not the deaths of the innocent men and now the police are getting praised by Obama and the police chiefs.

I doubt people are thinking about media attention at this point. I don't think that shooting coppers is the best strategy here, but then I'm fucked if I know what a good strategy might be. All reasonable means of trying to stop police violence against black people have failed. These killings of police officers aren't going to help anyone, but they were always going to happen sooner or later if things didn't change.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Not direct police brutality...more institutional but this kind of thing isn't helping...

A Black Man Was Just Found Hanging from a Tree in Atlanta

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I think we should be careful about drawing any conclusions about motivations or who the shooters are at this stage.

 

[no-no]

This is interesting......in all the years of reports of US police violence there's never been a full survey on police killings. Even more confusing, the little data there is conflicts.....mental.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/upshot/police-killings-of-blacks-what-the-data-says.html?_r=0

Are Police Bigoted?

"Such arguments suggest that the use of deadly force by police officers unfairly targets blacks. All that is needed are the numbers to prove it.

But those numbers do not exist. And because of that, the current national debate over the role of race in police killings is being conducted more or less in a vacuum.

Researchers have sought reliable data on shootings by police officers for years, and Congress even ordered the Justice Department to provide it, albeit somewhat vaguely, in 1994. But two decades later, there remains no comprehensive survey of police homicides. The even greater number of police shootings that do not kill, but leave suspects injured, sometimes gravely, is another statistical mystery."

 

[Buddy Bradley]

This is interesting......in all the years of reports of US police violence there's never been a full survey on police killings. Even more confusing, the little data there is conflicts.....mental.

The Counted: tracking people killed by police in the United States | US News | The Guardian

 

[Pickman's model]

20 people were killed by US cops in the first week of July. So the cops are still in the lead even for this month.

Yes. Why not read my post?

 

[likesfish]

Mark Hughes has now been confirmed as not one of the snipers.

But corbyn hasn't been ruled out you hear it here first.
Things are going to get a lot worse now.
Theres understandable fury about police killing black men.
Now apprantly black people have joined the all american hobby of mass murder with rifles.
So police are going to get even more guns and be even more trigger happy.
People will shoot back.

And just for fun the gun rights lot will wade in making everything worse because an inferno doesnt need someone to chuck petrol on it

 

[Treacle Toes]

I think we should be careful about drawing any conclusions about motivations or who the shooters are at this stage.

Was this aimed at me? If so I wasn't doing that.

 

[no-no]

The Counted: tracking people killed by police in the United States | US News | The Guardian

Why the hell aren't the US gov doing this themselves? While black men only make up a small percentage of the population they commit half the murders which could explain the high numbers of police killings. Every police encounter in the US will carry a risk of gunfire, the more encounters you have the higher your chances of getting shot. I don't find it hard to believe police racism is having an effect here but how the hell can you address the problem without any reliable figures? I think it shows how seriously the issue has been taken.

 

[Pickman's model]

This is interesting......in all the years of reports of US police violence there's never been a full survey on police killings. Even more confusing, the little data there is conflicts.....mental.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/upshot/police-killings-of-blacks-what-the-data-says.html?_r=0

Are Police Bigoted?

"Such arguments suggest that the use of deadly force by police officers unfairly targets blacks. All that is needed are the numbers to prove it.

But those numbers do not exist. And because of that, the current national debate over the role of race in police killings is being conducted more or less in a vacuum.

Researchers have sought reliable data on shootings by police officers for years, and Congress even ordered the Justice Department to provide it, albeit somewhat vaguely, in 1994. But two decades later, there remains no comprehensive survey of police homicides. The even greater number of police shootings that do not kill, but leave suspects injured, sometimes gravely, is another statistical mystery."

If there are no statistics there is probably a reason there are not statistics. I wonder what that reason could be.