Moorland - how unsympathetic am I allowed to be?

[Mr Moose]

We don't eat horsemeat in this country.

Apparently we do.

If her 100 acres are all for horses I'll take your point, but it seems unlikely. Fact is you don't know the facts from a clip on the news.

 

[Mr Moose]

You think horses are productive in the uk? I think I can see where you're coming from.

Fuck off. It's all too clear where you are coming from you selfish pretend radical.

 

[butchersapron]

I got a real slagging off for not being kind enough about these villagers in a discussion last night. Maybe I was just sounding off a bit because the way that the question of climate change has been completely and utterly censored out of any discussion of what's happened with the weather this winter, but I was feeling pretty unsympathetic about the people who live there.

So my case was this; it's a low lying bit of land. We know that there will be more rain, it'll fall more erratically and flooding will increase - we know this from all the theory over the last 25 years at least, and increasingly from actual real observable events.

The population there vote tory overwhelmingly - and have chosen an MP who has vigourously opposed windfarms and renewable energy. They seem to have almost non-stop access to the BBC and are always on the radio and we're told they're "being stoic" yet they seem (to me) to be constantly banging on about how "no ones listening to them" & "the govt should be doing more" (ie we should all be diverting more of our tax to them).

Aren't tories supposed to favour small states? Aren't they supposed to believe in standing on their own two feet? Haven't they consistently and vehemently opposed any climate change policies of any meaning? Aren't they living typical carbon-intensive lives? Why do they think it should only be other people who have to pay the consequences?

Anyway, they're getting on my wick (and yes I know there are going to be innocent victims here).

Appalling ignorant post.

 

[butchersapron]

Great way to alienate people from climate change ideas though co-op.

 

[co-op]

Fuck off. It's all too clear where you are coming from you selfish pretend radical.

Right ho. To the barricades for the horse owners!

 

[co-op]

Great way to alienate people from climate change ideas though co-op.

Why thank you.

 

[stowpirate]

Am I imagining things or has the BBC been avoiding discussing the green issues now the local population has started finger pointing at the environmental agency?

 

[butchersapron]

Right ho. To the barricades for the horse owners!

For the w/c people who can't get to work and may lose their current homes, to be bought out by weekend toffs, for the w/c people who couldn't afford full home insurance or the rates demanded in these areas who've sen their life and their memories float away, for those with no private school or medical facilities, those with chronic medical conditions now sleeping on strangers settees or in church halls...

 

[butchersapron]

For all them cider apples trees rotting away...

 

[rover07]

Talking in riddles again Butchersapron

 

[TruXta]

Talking in riddles again Butchersapron

For once he's being pretty clear.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Talking in riddles again Butchersapron

Far from it tbh.

 

[butchersapron]

Talking in riddles again Butchersapron

Er...no

 

[butchersapron]

I wonder whether ukip will hoover up any votes on this cos of the government's inaction?

Damn right they will.

 

[butchersapron]

Also, Wessex shall rise again.

 

[rover07]

Damn right they will.

They all vote Tory round there anyway, so not a fat lot of difference. Fuck 'em.

 

[butchersapron]

They all vote Tory round there anyway, so not a fat lot of difference. Fuck 'em.

No they don't you silly cockney.

 

[stowpirate]

For the w/c people who can't get to work and may lose their current homes, to be bought out by weekend toffs, for the w/c people who couldn't afford full home insurance or the rates demanded in these areas who've sen their life and their memories float away, for those with no private school or medical facilities, those with chronic medical conditions now sleeping on strangers settees or in church halls...

They do seem to be interviewing a lot of toffs and farmers? If the media was to be taken at face value not many working class people are caught up in this mess? I am sure a lot of people cannot get to their place of work and a few of us poor people are also flooded?

 

[danny la rouge]

Sorry, co-op, you are wrong on this one. Back away with some dignity.

Try looking at JRF research on rural poverty, for example.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

They do seem to be interviewing a lot of toffs and farmers? If the media was to be taken at face value not many working class people are caught up in this mess? I am sure a lot of people cannot get to their place of work and a few of us poor people are also flooded?

Of course the BBC will ignore the w/c.

 

[danny la rouge]

They do seem to be interviewing a lot of toffs and farmers?

Yes, they do. Because it's the BBC. They went to Harrow with a lot of toffs and farmers, and think that their stories are the interesting ones.

 

[butchersapron]

They do seem to be interviewing a lot of toffs and farmers? If the media was to be taken at face value not many working class people are caught up in this mess? I am sure a lot of people cannot get to their place of work and a few of us poor people are also flooded?

Damn right they are but they're not the media filter = farmers and pub-owners, people losing large money day by day. The servants are all shivering in the church halls rather than overseeing photogenic horse removal.

 

[butchersapron]

Sorry, co-op, you are wrong on this one. Back away with some dignity.

Try looking at JRF research on rural poverty, for example.

This is the thing, some people are scathing on rural poverty but when the rural poor are hit they suddenly become tory farmers. (And most farmers down here are UKIP and lib-dem btw - and most will be the former now).

 

[Pickman's model]

Sorry, co-op, you are wrong on this one. Back away with some dignity.

Try looking at JRF research on rural poverty, for example.

but their mp's a tory so they must all be tories [/co-op]

 

[J Ed]

Damn right they will.

Where is Labour on all of this? Surely they should be hammering them over it, it's a national embarrassment but there's been scarcely a word from them on it.

 

[butchersapron]

Where is Labour on all of this? Surely they should be hammering them over it, it's a national embarrassment but there's been scarcely a word from them on it.

They should be - locally they're working hard at it. Nationally not so much. All part of the swing towards lib-dems being replaced as second party in these areas.

 

[Pickman's model]

Where is Labour on all of this? Surely they should be hammering them over it, it's a national embarrassment but there's been scarcely a word from them on it.

that's because they're crap. there's even been very little from articul8 on this, though that may be fortunate.

 

[rover07]

No they don't you silly cockney.

Yeah sorry, not all.

If you take out Bridgewater about 80%.

 

[butchersapron]

Yeah sorry, not all.

If you take out Bridgewater about 80%.

Unless you stop talking in tongues i'm going to ignore your posts.

 

[frogwoman]

we had to have sandbags outside our house a few weeks ago, no horses/servants here