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Moorland - how unsympathetic am I allowed to be?

It's what many people who vote for them think they're voting for, wrongly as it turns but there you go. They are certainly aren't voting for screw you jack I'm alright which has been pretty obviously tory policy for 30 years.




It's more than a few loons - it includes George Osborne.

Well fuck them for being stupid fucks then, wouldn't that be your logic?

Moralising between voting labour and tories is pathetic.
 
You are fortunate to occupy so much physical and metaphorical high ground. You should go and tell the Dutch about your theories, or maybe Bangladeshi people....


If you want your mutuality to be successful you may have to be a bit less judgemental and selfish.

Already dealt with the Bangladesh issue - average CO2/GHG emissions per head will be minute fractions of typical Somerset dweller, yes they get my sympathy.

My judgementalism got activated because I'm getting appeals for my money on the radio for people who are mostly a fuckton richer than I am. Does that make me selfish in your world?
 
Already dealt with the Bangladesh issue - average CO2/GHG emissions per head will be minute fractions of typical Somerset dweller, yes they get my sympathy.

That isn't out of choice though.
 
Got fuck all to do with global warming and everything to do with UK government signing up to an EU policy to reintroduce wet lands, http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/conservation/designations/sac/ipens2000.aspx. Shame they didn't consult the locals, who still pay for dredging, which is done but not on the main rivers so everything backs up. EA projected costs for doing it are 1000 times higher than actual costs and the arguement that it saves the towns is bollocks Bridgewater would be fine as Chris Smith might know if he went there when the flooding was actually happening or read his own agencies report
 
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Moralising between voting labour and tories is pathetic.

My experience is that Labour voters are nicer people than Conservative voters, so yes I feel more sympathy for them. Maybe your experiences are different.
 
My experience is that Labour voters are nicer people than Conservative voters, so yes I feel more sympathy for them. Maybe your experiences are different.
Are you saying it was Labour voters slagging you off last night in the OP?
 
My experience is that Labour voters are nicer people than Conservative voters, so yes I feel more sympathy for them. Maybe your experiences are different.
yes? then it's a pity that the labour voters in charge of e.g. haringey and hackney councils in the 1990s out-toried the tories in enforcing the poll tax.
 
I must admit i felt little sympathy for some Tory farmer whinging about how she's had to move her precious horses to higher ground and how the government should have done more to stop her hundreds of acres of farmland from being flooded. Fuck off you rich cunts.

Plus no mention of climate change or CO2 emissions... HELLO?
 
Already dealt with the Bangladesh issue - average CO2/GHG emissions per head will be minute fractions of typical Somerset dweller, yes they get my sympathy.

My judgementalism got activated because I'm getting appeals for my money on the radio for people who are mostly a fuckton richer than I am. Does that make me selfish in your world?

Turn it off then, no one is asking you to do anything except not to spin against them.

And forgive me for being a bit sceptical of your lack of wealth, but I'm always struck by how generous the less well off are. You are sucking in a wholly capitalist line monetising communal support if you object to taxes being spent.
 
Are you saying it was Labour voters slagging you off last night in the OP?

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Probably ex-Labour mostly. But they're nice people.

Anyway I've turned off bloody R5 now and I accept this is a pretty incoherent argument. Maybe save for the point about climate change - and I guess the emotional point here for me is that it's become so clear that it's just everyone for themself now, there's no policy any more. Don't know why this surprises me again and again, it just does.

It's also an emotional one for me, the only time I've lived in a tory seat was in the west country and I thought the wanker count was unbelievably high compared to anywhere else I've lived.
 
And forgive me for being a bit sceptical of your lack of wealth, but I'm always struck by how generous the less well off are. You are sucking in a wholly capitalist line monetising communal support if you object to taxes being spent.

Eh? This was half my grumble - why should mutuality suddenly be the order of the day when a load of tories are in trouble? It's the usual story, socialism for the rich, free markets for the poor.

Of course the poor are disproportionately generous, that's why right wing govts love charity so much, it;s another tax on the poor.
 
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Probably ex-Labour mostly. But they're nice people.

Anyway I've turned off bloody R5 now and I accept this is a pretty incoherent argument. Maybe save for the point about climate change - and I guess the emotional point here for me is that it's become so clear that it's just everyone for themself now, there's no policy any more. Don't know why this surprises me again and again, it just does.

It's also an emotional one for me, the only time I've lived in a tory seat was in the west country and I thought the wanker count was unbelievably high compared to anywhere else I've lived.


EXCEPT ITS NOT CLIMATE CHANGE THAT'S FUCKING UP THE LEVELS ITS THE NOT DREDGING (which the locals still pay for)
 
And not a coincidence - London's only for the rich now imo, it's going to get more tory, more divided and all the rest. Also we lived on a floodplain and thought it's only a matter of time.

Must've been nice to be able to choose. Guess you're not as poverty stricken as you'd have us all believe.

And whilst I'm positively sure that there are tories on the levels who are braying loudly about wanting help (that's what tories do), there are also plenty of other people who didn't vote for Cameron and the Cronies, are not rich and are genuinely suffering.

But fuck them, eh? As long as you don't have to listen to them moan on the radio. The ignominy...
 
Must've been nice to be able to choose. Guess you're not as poverty stricken as you'd have us all believe..

Hello strawman! When did I say I'm poverty stricken? But I sure couldn't afford to move to Somerset, let alone the pretty rural bits.
 
EXCEPT ITS NOT CLIMATE CHANGE THAT'S FUCKING UP THE LEVELS ITS THE NOT DREDGING (which the locals still pay for)

So the rainfall's the same as normal? Genuine question - are you saying the rains irrelevant, that a well-dredged river would have just drained it all?
 
I must admit i felt little sympathy for some Tory farmer whinging about how she's had to move her precious horses to higher ground and how the government should have done more to stop her hundreds of acres of farmland from being flooded. Fuck off you rich cunts.

Plus no mention of climate change or CO2 emissions... HELLO?

How dare people have horses!

Farming! What a useless occupation, growing things in the UK.
 
EXCEPT ITS NOT CLIMATE CHANGE THAT'S FUCKING UP THE LEVELS ITS THE NOT DREDGING (which the locals still pay for)

Well that's the line the right-wing media are going with.

It's not climate change, it's the EU or government incompetence or intefering greenies or something...
 
Well that's the line the right-wing media are going with.

It's not climate change, it's the EU or government incompetence or intefering greenies or something...


Climate change is happening, the more energetic weather systems that we are seeing are always what I imagined climate change to be, but the Levels is something else
 
:D

Probably ex-Labour mostly. But they're nice people.

Anyway I've turned off bloody R5 now and I accept this is a pretty incoherent argument. Maybe save for the point about climate change - and I guess the emotional point here for me is that it's become so clear that it's just everyone for themself now, there's no policy any more. Don't know why this surprises me again and again, it just does.

It's also an emotional one for me, the only time I've lived in a tory seat was in the west country and I thought the wanker count was unbelievably high compared to anywhere else I've lived.
and if someone had said to you that your mp's views impacted on how they felt about you i'm sure you'd have considered it fair comment.
 
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