Matrix IV
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I’ve probably said this already on this thread but I can’t be arsed to check. Matrix II was deeply flawed in its pacing and its ending was a bit bollocks but there was also an awful lot to like in it. It had some great ideas, beautiful set pieces and interesting dialogue. The Merovingian’s speech about cause and effect springs to mind.
Matrix III was just a terrible car crash of a film though. A real shame. If that had been good, I think we would all view the second one in a very different light.
Matrix III was just a terrible car crash of a film though. A real shame. If that had been good, I think we would all view the second one in a very different light.
Reno
The In Kraut
...always a good sign !
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
You might be disappointed all the same. Some clever stuff to begin with but...
Reno
The In Kraut
Never been a huge The Matrix fan, so my expectations are low. While I think the Wachowski's films are wildly uneven, they are always interesting, my favourite films of theirs are Bound and The Cloud Atlas (which only is let down by the awful minstrel make-up). I think the first half of the original The Matrix is great, but then then it becomes all shooting, fighting and posing, which isn't really my thing.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
The best sequel/prequel to the original, imho, is The Animatrix.
Then again, if you're not a fan, it won't impact as much.
Reno
The In Kraut
I remember really liking some of the shorts in that, especially the one which appeared to be influenced by Tarkovsky's Stalker, about a zone where the laws of physics don't apply.
ruffneck23
front left
Well that was weird, I think I enjoyed it but simultaneously think it was a right load of bollocks too...
Might need to watch it again at some point.
Some good effects though...
Might need to watch it again at some point.
Some good effects though...
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
I'm in an interesting situation. OH won't watch anything if the Guardian says it was rubbish, but she's been saying that this is going to be really good. I've not shown her the Guardian score yet.
Are the copies on torrent sites decent?
Are the copies on torrent sites decent?
ruffneck23
front left
just watched in perfect 4k , so i imagine all the other resolutions will be spot on too, possibly because its been ripped from HBO max and not the cinema.
Reno
The In Kraut
Especially now that many films get simultaneously released theatrically and for streaming, torrents are first rate. The days of a new release getting recorded at a cinema on a smartphone are mostly over.
Peter Bradshaw, the head film critic of The Guardian, is probably my most hated film critic.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Though it disappoints, have to laugh at some of the criticisms from the right. It's a "woke disaster", or it "promotes" transgenderism etc.
Anyway, surely calling it "woke" is some kinda ironic shit...
Anyway, surely calling it "woke" is some kinda ironic shit...
Ming
I shot a man in Reno...
No one knows. What is at the end of that that street (presumably at the end of that street).
No spoilers necessary. Trinity is just referring to Neo’s existing life, which he hates. If he leaves them and goes off down that road, that’s what he’ll go back to.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Tried to watch Reloaded again yesterday. There's very little plot, padded out with a lot of unnecessary shit, and what there is doesn't make much sense at all. Compare it to the first movie which crams in so much world building, and where (almost) every ridiculous set piece actually moves the plot on. The original also doesn't stand still long enough to let you notice that the characters are all cardboard cut outs. Reloaded then opens with a bunch of stuff about how those cardboard cut outs feel about things, and my god it fucking drags.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Presumably this is coming from the same subspecies of bonehead who takes the whole 'red pill blue pill' thing literally as well.
Griff
Hardly posting anymore
Remember seeing the first one at the pictures when it came out and being really enthused about it relaying an anti-globalist message, something the second one totally lost.
Watched the first one again last night and it still stacks up as a great concept and film, but struggle to see the optimism I saw in at the time now.
Got the second and third ones on my planner to watch.
Watched the first one again last night and it still stacks up as a great concept and film, but struggle to see the optimism I saw in at the time now.
Got the second and third ones on my planner to watch.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Can you elaborate on the 'anti-globalist' message you think it relayed?
Have just downloded the new one to watch over Xmas. Enjoyed the first original one, thought the others were trash.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Saw the new movie yesterday. I was not impressed. Wasn't as bad as I was expecting either. Mainly it suffers from the problem that a lot of movies have in that it tries to substitute CGI for plot and dialog.
The main think I liked about it was the irony of naming Trinity's husband "Chad."
The main think I liked about it was the irony of naming Trinity's husband "Chad."
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Griff
Hardly posting anymore
Well having watched it again last night and having it fresh in my mind, it's quite difficult to elaborate a feeling I had watching a film twenty-two years back.
Especially summing up the feeling in a pre 2001 9/11 world.
But it seemed fresh, inspiring and thought provoking. Breaking out of the system (the Matrix) if you like.
As mentioned, not so much viewing it again last night. Enjoyable nonetheless.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
and it has a rather good car chase in it that hold up quite well
I tend to just skip everything like bad CGI Smith's , the rave cave sex scene and go straight the marvingion cake with the car chase
second one cannot hold a candle to the first movie but it's better than revolutions
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Watched the new one. Complete load of bollocks. Opens with some vaguely fun meta-nonsense which is then laid on way too thick for the rest of the movie, to the point where one returning character appears and does nothing but shout about how shit popular culture is nowadays.
The characters that are recast are recast really fucking badly (and its pretty ambiguous who they're actually supposed to be) and the movie really suffers from not having Fishburne and Weaving to lend some gravity to the nonsense. Carrie Ann Moss is pretty good though, although she's absent for much of the film.
Overrall the feeling is that Lana Wachowski didn't want to do this at all, and laced the movie with pretty on-the-nose stuff about how much she didn't want to do it. The result is something that feels cynical on multiple levels.
The characters that are recast are recast really fucking badly (and its pretty ambiguous who they're actually supposed to be) and the movie really suffers from not having Fishburne and Weaving to lend some gravity to the nonsense. Carrie Ann Moss is pretty good though, although she's absent for much of the film.
Overrall the feeling is that Lana Wachowski didn't want to do this at all, and laced the movie with pretty on-the-nose stuff about how much she didn't want to do it. The result is something that feels cynical on multiple levels.
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