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There is no dirty or clean money in this world, just money.
Well. theoretically, yes, but there is cleaner and dirtier money. I'm a Man United fan and recognise that leaves me on pretty shaky moral highground. The glazers are scumbags and I came close to becoming a non supporter in 2005, but couldn't quite break the emotional tie. I have though stopped going to matches (well, I took my Mum to a couple of games circa 2007, but that was it). Seems to me though city's links to a torture regime are different, genuinely worse. That doesn't add up to a line in the sand, a moral judgement on people who stay as city fans (as I carry on being a united fan). You make your own judgements and I guess I would I have de-supported citeh had I been a fan, but who knows, I might not have. But it's not a case of there being no dirty and clean money/owners/regimes. Kind of along the same lines, I watched the world cup when it was in Russia, but won't be watching it in Qatar. Fine lines maybe, but you can still make choices.
 
Wilf, all due respect our kid, this is my thread and it's become cathartic. So sling it with your thinly veiled digs. Yours, M7
Not aimed at you, you seem to crop up on various football threads, I'd barely noticed which team you support. I was replying to RD2003.
 
Well. theoretically, yes, but there is cleaner and dirtier money. I'm a Man United fan and recognise that leaves me on pretty shaky moral highground. The glazers are scumbags and I came close to becoming a non supporter in 2005, but couldn't quite break the emotional tie. I have though stopped going to matches (well, I took my Mum to a couple of games circa 2007, but that was it). Seems to me though city's links to a torture regime are different, genuinely worse. That doesn't add up to a line in the sand, a moral judgement on people who stay as city fans (as I carry on being a united fan). You make your own judgements and I guess I would I have de-supported citeh had I been a fan, but who knows, I might not have. But it's not a case of there being no dirty and clean money/owners/regimes. Kind of along the same lines, I watched the world cup when it was in Russia, but won't be watching it in Qatar. Fine lines maybe, but you can still make choices.


America (like Britain an ally of Abu Dhabi) is a torture regime isn't it? It tortures people at Guantanamo and has directly induced, armed and provided physical support to torture regimes all over the world. I doubt if the American owners of clubs, when they're not plotting to drain top-level football of genuine competition and permanently shut out challengers, are plotting to undermine the US system or its worldwide stuctures of power and control.

City's owner may be a member of the ruling council of Abu Dhabi, but like a government minister anywhere, he hasn't the power or authority to single-handedly reform the system of Abu Dhabi, which is, in any case, hardly the worst that the Arab world has seen. City's owners do not in any way try to impose their views (whatever they may be and not necessarily, on a personal level, those of the regime); quite the opposite when you consider the club's championing of women's football, and its vocal opposition to anti-gay and other forms of discrimination for instance. They have redeveloped vast swathes of inner-city Manchester. If anybody, in line with the new fashion, wants to call that 'sportswashing','it clearly isn't working, as Abu Dhabi has probably never received such negative publicity as that stirred up by second-rate posh boy journalists and the vast army of trolls who hang on their words. Hypocritically in most cases, I might add, as few of them cared about what may happen in Abu Dhabi, or even knew where it was, before City knocked the clubs most of them support off their perch. Furthermore, other major clubs have financial and other connections to Arab regimes, including United with their Saudi links, and other sports-motor and, I think, horse racing to name two-are, like the western economy in general, awash with money from the Arab world, yet it's only City who get singled out. Why? Because they've challenged the cosy cartel that thought it had European football in its pocket forever.

If Sheikh Mansour had taken over any other club, the vast majority of its supporters would have remained loyal to their club, exactly as did Chelsea supporters when Abromovich took over and United fans with the Glazers, and as will those at whichever club is eventually bought by Saudi money. You often find that those who cite club ownership as their reason for jumping ship were looking for the first excuse anyway.
 
America (like Britain an ally of Abu Dhabi) is a torture regime isn't it? It tortures people at Guantanamo and has directly induced, armed and provided physical support to torture regimes all over the world. I doubt if the American owners of clubs, when they're not plotting to drain top-level football of genuine competition and permanently shut out challengers, are plotting to undermine the US system or its worldwide stuctures of power and control.

City's owner may be a member of the ruling council of Abu Dhabi, but like a government minister anywhere, he hasn't the power or authority to single-handedly reform the system of Abu Dhabi, which is, in any case, hardly the worst that the Arab world has seen. City's owners do not in any way try to impose their views (whatever they may be and not necessarily, on a personal level, those of the regime); quite the opposite when you consider the club's championing of women's football, and its vocal opposition to anti-gay and other forms of discrimination for instance. They have redeveloped vast swathes of inner-city Manchester. If anybody, in line with the new fashion, wants to call that 'sportswashing','it clearly isn't working, as Abu Dhabi has probably never received such negative publicity as that stirred up by second-rate posh boy journalists and the vast army of trolls who hang on their words. Hypocritically in most cases, I might add, as few of them cared about what may happen in Abu Dhabi, or even knew where it was, before City knocked the clubs most of them support off their perch. Furthermore, other major clubs have financial and other connections to Arab regimes, including United with their Saudi links, and other sports-motor and, I think, horse racing to name two-are, like the western economy in general, awash with money from the Arab world, yet it's only City who get singled out. Why? Because they've challenged the cosy cartel that thought it had European football in its pocket forever.

If Sheikh Mansour had taken over any other club, the vast majority of its supporters would have remained loyal to their club, exactly as did Chelsea supporters when Abromovich took over and United fans with the Glazers, and as will those at whichever club is eventually bought by Saudi money. You often find that those who cite club ownership as their reason for jumping ship were looking for the first excuse anyway.

When you put it like that :p

Messi! Messi! Messi!
 

taking over from Keegan when he took us as far as he could, having no tactics but shouting a lot and throwing water bottles about. We remarkably went and a good run of 10 to 12 games to put ourselves in contention for Europe under Stuart Pearce.

Que Jamo playing up-front for some reason and us getting a late pengy to win the game. Fowler missed it and we still got to Europe anyway on the Fair Play System :D

Remember this vividly because about a dozen of us City fans were in the vault of a massive United pub. Huddled around a tiny TV. United obvs got the big screen. Before we got the penalty the bastards turned the stream off and some fucking legend popped out an FM radio so we could listen to the commentator describing David James kicking people and the penalty miss.
 
He's a hard-headed bastard at times. Okay, there shouldn't be any room for sentiment, but David Silva got 5 minutes last year against Lyon. His last game after a decade. Aguero got 13 minutes tonight, his last game, also a decade. Sterling is absolutely appalling rn. He has regressed so so badly. Yet he got the nod over Fernandhino.

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from reddit after the PSG win.

I was calling for Pochettino after the 3-1 to Lyon. I won't do that now cos I've had enough of it all. It doesn't even hurt. And if they go and spend 200 mill this summer they can really get to fuck.
 
We'll be back. And even if we're not back, we're still fucking City, aren't we? We're the Rolling Stones of football. When we're great, we're great, and even when we're not great, we're still fucking great.*



*Credit due to Ian Rankin
 
Apparently we're gonna offer spurs 100 million for harry "spirit of the blitz" kane
I think he’s the best striker in the EPL to be honest . It’s a lot of money but better value than other big money buys like Bale, Pogba , Courtinho and Hazard for example .
 
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