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Mail surmises what would have happened if Thatcher hadn't won in 79

I pointed this out elsewhere but they have a WWII HMS Sheffield as illustration to their 'failed invasion'. Silly mistake but illustrates the kind of tosser who fantasizes about wars without really having a clue about the details (like watching your mates burning on a ship cooking off).
 
The Times had ceased publication in 1981, when the Government vetoed Rupert Murdoch’s attempt to rescue it from bankruptcy.

I don't blame Dominic Sandbrook for cosying up to potential new employers. Not when he's forced to write loonspud swivel-eyed counterfactuals to keep his children shod.
 
Counter-factual bullshit but some of this sounds great

Benn’s attempts to abolish the monarchy came to nothing. But he did manage to get rid of the House of Lords, overcoming the old order’s opposition by creating a record 500 new peers, including such luminaries as Viscount Barnsley (Arthur Scargill), the Earl of Nottingham (football manager Brian Clough) and the Marchioness of Stirling (the comedian Wee Jimmy Krankie)
 
if that version of history had happened we would now have Owen Jones as Dear Leader

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Imagine what could have been done with that 16% of GDP oil revenues, and with a manufacturing/coal mining base. Imagine what could have been fucking done. You cunt Maggie.
Plus so much still nationalised - power generation, railways, telecommunications for starters - manufacturing industries such as steel, locomotives and shipbuilding still healthy and viable and a decent welfare state that doesn't vilify the poorest and most vulnerable in society.

Cunt indeed.
 
Plus so much still nationalised - power generation, railways, telecommunications for starters - manufacturing industries such as steel, locomotives and shipbuilding still healthy and viable and a decent welfare state that doesn't vilify the poorest and most vulnerable in society.

Cunt indeed.
Pity they were not healthy or viable. Under investment and poor mangerment had crippled them more than any evil union.
And British telecom was shitter than a shit thing having to pay to plug in a phone and only use phones they approved of etc. There is a reason people hated the nationlaised industries.
 
Pity they were not healthy or viable. Under investment and poor mangerment had crippled them more than any evil union.
And British telecom was shitter than a shit thing having to pay to plug in a phone and only use phones they approved of etc. There is a reason people hated the nationlaised industries.
But that could have been turned around. Can't invest in something that isn't there any more.
 
Pity they were not healthy or viable. Under investment and poor mangerment had crippled them more than any evil union.
And British telecom was shitter than a shit thing having to pay to plug in a phone and only use phones they approved of etc. There is a reason people hated the nationlaised industries.


good job we now have the freedom to choose between which company we want to bum us sans lube
 
And we got to pay for tiny bits of power and water services, and watch that grow as our bills get increasingly ridiculous.
 
good job we now have the freedom to choose between which company we want to bum us sans lube

Well before you had to queue up and wait for a bumming that may or may not turn up. :mad: If they been slightly less shit people might not have been so keen to let thatcher have her way. As it was people were happy for them to be privatized :(.
 
That's because they thought they'd get a profit out of it, but the route to profit was by charging more - you don't get something for nowt.
 
half the problem with the nationlised industrys was they could never borrow to invest as that went on the nations balance sheet and if by chance they actually made a profit it got snaffled by the treasury which is why the post office suffered it actually at one time made cash.
was any of that invested was it fuck.
One of the reasons water bills skyrocked was the fact the private companies could actually start replacing the years of underinvestment.
shit used to be washed up on the beaches in brighton it doesnt now because the water company built a big fuck off storm drain thingy something which wasnt done in 50 years of public ownership.
public ownership is a nice idea but unless whatever is in public ownership is run well its just going to be a disaster.
 
Tony Blair as Benn's hand-picked successor. Christ.

I remember a MOS piece called "What if Labour Loses?" in the run up to the 1997 GE. Even then it seemed ridiculous. (The Mail iirc came out for John Major in that particular battle).

A far more realistic (or at least more interesting) scenario without Thatcher would be Callaghan calling the election early in 1978, riding out the 'Winter of Discontent' (another soaraway Sun coinage) and then defeating the Argentinians over the Falklands in 1982 (he'd already put the willies up them with his defence of the islands in 1977), and winning a second term. No miners' strike (or at least not such a divisive one) and then on to 1987...

I'm assuming Thatcher's megalomania would see her continuing to lead the Tories until the 1983 GE, and then getting defenestrated, and fucking off to work for some US thinktank. Tory leader after that? Pick your deadbeat...
 
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