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I'm not actually sure what the proposal would be for Camberwell - whether just the denmark hill services would stop there, or just the wimbledon ones, or both. From an LJ point of view stopping the wimbledon ones there doesn't do any good because it would slow our journey times into town and add more passengers. On the other hand, stopping the DH ones wouldn't give us those problems but would give us an extra option for trains towards Blackfriars, say when the wimbledon services are screwed up. But actually, for much of the LJ area, Camberwell wouldn't be any quicker a walk than Denmark Hill is.

A reopening of Brixton East seems to be the one to push for, to me.

Yes - Brixton East seems to make going to Clapham Junction / Peckham / East End much easier
 
Yes - Brixton East seems to make going to Clapham Junction / Peckham / East End much easier
If it meant a load of people started getting off Wimbledon trains at LJ in the mornings, to interchange with the Overground, that might be good. As long as it's not balanced by an even larger number getting off the overground and wanting to get on at LJ.
 
The Sutton tracks through old Camberwell station are straight as an arrow, and the platforms only need to be as long as an 8-car train (the maximum ever likely to run on the sutton loop) - 160m

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Denmark Hill trains would bypass.
Seems reasonable to me.
 
What you call the Sutton lines are actually used by many Sevenoaks trains as well (they swap lines just N of LJ station). So if you are planning to put your platforms on that pair then they can stop, and LJ trains can be sent on the fast bypass route :thumbs:
 
Yes - Brixton East seems to make going to Clapham Junction / Peckham / East End much easier
I'm all for re-opening Brixton East - it was the centre piece of my Coldharbour Ward election campaign in 2014!

I just thought that adding back the Denmark Hill bound platforms at LJ might also be potentially newly viable in this time of higher public transport usage.

Apparently not. Exactly who made these immutable rules about curvature of platforms? Are they enshrined in European law I ask? - for obvious reasons!
 
What you call the Sutton lines are actually used by many Sevenoaks trains as well (they swap lines just N of LJ station). So if you are planning to put your platforms on that pair then they can stop, and LJ trains can be sent on the fast bypass route :thumbs:
All we'd have to do is terminate all loop trains in the bay at Blackfriars and send the Sevenoaks trains through the tunnel. Nice and segregated and reliable :)
 
All we'd have to do is terminate all loop trains in the bay at Blackfriars and send the Sevenoaks trains through the tunnel. Nice and segregated and reliable :)
Better clear that with LJAG and the burgers of Streatham.
 
Went to about 1 hour of this meeting - first half.

Nice to know the project is still ploughing ahead.
There were a lot of people at the meeting (50 or more I reckon)

The one sticking point seemed to be that some people were very keen to find out what the prices would be to enter space.
The designated facilities management organisation (Meanwhile Space) would not give any idea what rental rates were proposed.

It seemed to me that the project has built in flexibility - in that there are several uses proposed for the spaces, which could presumably be adjusted in the light of demand as it turns out.

Meanwhile the council officer working with the project seems very supportive - and the architect very conscious they have to work to deadline in order to benefit from the GLA grant.
 
Available now while stocks last at the Loco shop (opposite tescos):
A very small and fearless kitten who sleeps behind the counter and wants to be stroked. Will cheer you up. Highly recommended.
 
The bins around LJ are good. I've got this week an extension lead. To add to my toaster and Fax hoover.
Sorry to digress into SW2 but a friend of mine in Morval Road found an old Dell computer with Ubuntu on it next to the bin.

Unfortunately he insisted on converting it to pirated Windows XP as he was unwilling to learn Ubuntu (you know how reluctant to change some old people are). Nevertheless it has worked perfectly up to now - but now he will be at risk from the NHS/Korean/Russian virus without a patch from Microsoft.

Still he's had a good 2 -3 years out of a discarded PC.
 
Bridge works apparently start this week.

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So. This "Work of Art Inspired by the Continent of Africa":
They came and painted orange on one side of the road and then they went away again.
It was supposed to be finished a month ago.
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Orange and blue are not friends. Bloody shambles.

edit: But, you know, what do you expect for ... £218,750 :facepalm:
https://loughboroughjunction.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/7-bridges-1-101.pdf

Fucking hell. I've just had a read of that, the proposal for the 7 bridges project.
It says:

"The physical definition of the Junction is that of an anonymous crossroads whose face to the street is a mouth full of decaying and broken teeth"

"The intersection of the roads and the surrounding railway lines create the ventricles and atria, which form the the heart of Loughborough Junction. The aim of this project is to restart the heart of LJ. "


Thanks guys. Our heart has stopped and all our teeth are decayed and broken, and so you got the funding to bring us.. this .:mad:
 
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So. This "Work of Art Inspired by the Continent of Africa":
They came and painted orange on one side of the road and then they went away again.
It was supposed to be finished a month ago.
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Orange and blue are not friends. Bloody shambles.

edit: But, you know, what do you expect for ... £218,750 :facepalm:
https://loughboroughjunction.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/7-bridges-1-101.pdf

Fucking hell. I've just had a read of that, the proposal for the 7 bridges project.
It says:

"The physical definition of the Junction is that of an anonymous crossroads whose face to the street is a mouth full of decaying and broken teeth"

"The intersection of the roads and the surrounding railway lines create the ventricles and atria, which form the the heart of Loughborough Junction. The aim of this project is to restart the heart of LJ. "


Thanks guys. Our heart has stopped and all our teeth are decayed and broken, and so you got the funding to bring us.. this .:mad:

I think it's an issue of the paint. The paint used has to be tested. It's not the fault of contractors Conway's or the Bridges project. To do with NR changing specifications of paint.
 
Could be. I emailed them (make-good, the email address in the posters) yesterday and have now got this response, which is good news:

"Thanks for getting in touch. I'm sorry that we have all had to look at a half finished job (believe me it's been driving me mad too). The bridge work was unfortunately delayed by network rail (beurocratic goal posts were shifted at the last minute- very frustrating).
I was instructed to hold off giving an update until we had a firm answer. Funnily however enough I got word from the council this morning that network rail have given the go ahead for work to recommence!
I have a meeting this Thursday with all the involved parties to confirm the new time frame and will notify you (and the rest of the community with another poster week after next). "
 
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