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That's why I put desperate emergency. Bloody vets bills are horrendous. So glad I have the Blue Cross to go to. My cat took ill at about 8pm. Was told to take him straight there when I called the out of hours number.

We've already got the max 2 cats registered at Blue cross and sod's law it was the other one who got really ill and had to go private
 
Must be. The unicorn is on the right in the english coat of arms, but on the left in the scottish version.

No idea why they went with lorem ipsum though.
 
I mean, why miss the opportunity for a latin pun/joke?
Lorem ipsum is just lazy :(
Yes, that's the bit that baffled me. If they've gone to all that effort to produce the poster and get it posted up (no mean feat in itself) you'd think there'd be a killer punchline. And what relevance do the two flies at the bottom have?
 
It might be saying that there's an unknown nothing coming soon where dieu et mon droit the divine right of the king thing was.
 
I see MPs Harriet Harman and Helen Hayes have written to Chris Grayling requesting the reopening of Camberwell Station

MPs aim to get historic Camberwell Station back on track - Southwark News

If I had the ear of Ms Hayes (which I don't) I would be advocating reinstating the Loughborough Junction platforms which connect with Peckham. This would be a local link to places like Lewisham as well as connecting with the Overground at Denmark Hill & Peckham.
 
I've looked into that and it seems there are genuine technical issues that make it very unlikely to be possible, sadly.

It does look like the reopening of both camberwell and brixton east is being looked at relatively seriously now though.
 
Come now, you know you can't just leave that dangling :D
Partly there's a question about the curvature - way too tight for modern "new platform" standards but also if you look on the aerial view you can see that the closed platforms are very short compared to the ones in use. Extending them would mean building out across a bridge and also possibly into land the railway doesn't own. Apparently the platforms were closed during electrification based on the difficulty of extending their length. Even if it were possible to extend them, you'd be encroaching into even tighter curvature and I would imagine it would be hard to argue they weren't "new platforms".

So, I can't see it happening, sadly.

Platforms at Camberwell serving the Denmark Hill trains but not the LJ trains would be ideal: some extra services available at the cost of a bit of an extra walk, without slowing down LJ services with an extra stop :thumbs:
 
Partly there's a question about the curvature - way too tight for modern "new platform" standards but also if you look on the aerial view you can see that the closed platforms are very short compared to the ones in use. Extending them would mean building out across a bridge and also possibly into land the railway doesn't own. Apparently the platforms were closed during electrification based on the difficulty of extending their length. Even if it were possible to extend them, you'd be encroaching into even tighter curvature and I would imagine it would be hard to argue they weren't "new platforms".

So, I can't see it happening, sadly.

Platforms at Camberwell serving the Denmark Hill trains but not the LJ trains would be ideal: some extra services available at the cost of a bit of an extra walk, without slowing down LJ services with an extra stop :thumbs:

Thats just another station on the same route a little bit further from an existing station isnt it? Isn't it the interchange that's useful with joining up at LJ (or Brixton East with a walk to Brixton)?
 
Thats just another station on the same route a little bit further from an existing station isnt it? Isn't it the interchange that's useful with joining up at LJ (or Brixton East with a walk to Brixton)?

Yes, opening Camberwell doesn't give much in the way of interchange options. But would give a bit more journey choice to LJ residents which is what is of course most important.

Opening Brixton East would give a sort-of interchange between Wimbledon Loop Thameslink trains, and the Overground, by walking between Brixton East and LJ. A slightly shorter walk than that between LJ and Denmark Hill. Of course it would also give a sort-of interchange between the Overground and the tube at Brixton.

You might be confusing opening the disused platforms at LJ with constructing new platforms at LJ on the high-level lines that cross over the end of the existing platforms.

Opening the disused platforms at LJ would allow you to get on to Blackfriars services that you currently have to walk to Denmark Hill for (eg the ones to/from sevenoaks). It wouldn't let you get on to Overground services at LJ - for those you'd need to walk to or change at Denmark Hill.
It wouldn't really offer any extra interchange possibilities (would just offer what you can currently do at Elephant)
But I don't think this will ever happen.

Constructing new platforms on the high level line over LJ would give access to the Overground services that you currently have to walk to Denmark Hill for. It wouldn't let you get on to the Blackfriars-Sevenoaks services at LJ - for those you'd need to walk to or change at Denmark Hill. This would provide extra interchange possibilities.
But I don't think this will ever happen either (would be fairly major project requiring the re-alignment of heavily used mainline tracks and widening the viaduct).
 
Yes, opening Camberwell doesn't give much in the way of interchange options. But would give a bit more journey choice to LJ residents which is what is of course most important.

Opening Brixton East would give a sort-of interchange between Wimbledon Loop Thameslink trains, and the Overground, by walking between Brixton East and LJ. A slightly shorter walk than that between LJ and Denmark Hill. Of course it would also give a sort-of interchange between the Overground and the tube at Brixton.

You might be confusing opening the disused platforms at LJ with constructing new platforms at LJ on the high-level lines that cross over the end of the existing platforms.

Opening the disused platforms at LJ would allow you to get on to Blackfriars services that you currently have to walk to Denmark Hill for (eg the ones to/from sevenoaks). It wouldn't let you get on to Overground services at LJ - for those you'd need to walk to or change at Denmark Hill.
It wouldn't really offer any extra interchange possibilities (would just offer what you can currently do at Elephant)
But I don't think this will ever happen.

Constructing new platforms on the high level line over LJ would give access to the Overground services that you currently have to walk to Denmark Hill for. It wouldn't let you get on to the Blackfriars-Sevenoaks services at LJ - for those you'd need to walk to or change at Denmark Hill. This would provide extra interchange possibilities.
But I don't think this will ever happen either (would be fairly major project requiring the re-alignment of heavily used mainline tracks and widening the viaduct).

Hmmm - I hadnt thought it through that much, I guess I thought that connecting LJ and DH makes getting to all the services at DH (overland more than the sevenoaks service) a bit easier but as you;ve written it out it's pretty marginal.

I like the idea of Brixton East reopening.

If the Camberwell station only has the DH-Blackfriars route I'm not sure it stacks up unless it's the only way to reduce overcrowding at DH.
 
Hmmm - I hadnt thought it through that much, I guess I thought that connecting LJ and DH makes getting to all the services at DH (overland more than the sevenoaks service) a bit easier but as you;ve written it out it's pretty marginal.

I like the idea of Brixton East reopening.

If the Camberwell station only has the DH-Blackfriars route I'm not sure it stacks up unless it's the only way to reduce overcrowding at DH.

I'm not actually sure what the proposal would be for Camberwell - whether just the denmark hill services would stop there, or just the wimbledon ones, or both. From an LJ point of view stopping the wimbledon ones there doesn't do any good because it would slow our journey times into town and add more passengers. On the other hand, stopping the DH ones wouldn't give us those problems but would give us an extra option for trains towards Blackfriars, say when the wimbledon services are screwed up. But actually, for much of the LJ area, Camberwell wouldn't be any quicker a walk than Denmark Hill is.

A reopening of Brixton East seems to be the one to push for, to me.
 
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