Loughborough Junction chitter-chatter
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SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Bit touchy. Guess it is real then
Gramsci
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You are what you user name is- Spam. Like the emails that end up in my spam inbox. You add nothing to these boards.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Cool story bro
Gramsci
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Just proved my point.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Yup. You're winning
Gramsci
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Its not about "winning". I mean it. You are what your user name is Spam.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
So you think those 4 alternatives will sort out the transport issues London faces?
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
No. It was beyond satire
bimble
floofy
Does anyone know who would be best to ask about what's going on with the adventure playground on Gordon Grove?
(I mean to ask why its now closed and where we're at in the council's plan to transform it into a block of flats)?
I've written an email to the council lady who was there at the meeting months ago, and CCd fluid the architects but no luck so far. Any ideas?
(I mean to ask why its now closed and where we're at in the council's plan to transform it into a block of flats)?
I've written an email to the council lady who was there at the meeting months ago, and CCd fluid the architects but no luck so far. Any ideas?
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I've got book called "World out of Work" published at the height of the Thatcher unemployment boom in 1983. The general thesis was exactly this - technology meant we could all work much less, and share the work out.
Clearly the No Jobs Bloc are reviving this approach. I hope they have more luck this time. Although I have for a lot of my life participated in the wage-slave system in order to pay a mortgage etc there has to be a better way or organising economic activity than force - fear of getting behind on the payments, and also demonising people who are economically "inactive".
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Be wary. It's also the first practical step towards a system where nobody is guaranteed any state benefits or services, instead having to purchase healthcare etc. on the open market. It's the ultimate in low-bureaucracy benefits.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I felt like that in 1989 when I temporarily joined the Greens, after the Lib-SDP merger. But the Citizen Wage is still on the table, and I am glad it will be tried out, albeit not in UK as of now.
But the present system seems as bizarre and oppressive as it is possible to get. Unchecked handouts to those in work whose dependants are resident abroad, people with cancer being forced to grovel to ATOS to save their disability benefits.
Frankly the state-run system is getting as much of a casino operation as private provision would be (not that I'm advocating private provision).
ChrisSouth
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We currently live in a system where no one is forced to work. But I don't think that's what you mean. Do you mean 'a system where no-one's force to work and don't get a hard time from the government (and society) for not doing so'?
bimble
floofy
And the Swiss are having a referendum in June on whether or not to pay every adult about £1,700 per month. .
This was interesting, in Graun the other day: Should we scrap benefits and pay everyone £100 a week?
goldengraham
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Gramsci
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Also Keynes thought the working week would be reduced.
ringo
Macaroni cheese controller
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I guess I mean "a system where no-one's forced to work in order to have a comfortable life and financial security".
Gramsci
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The next LJ Neighbourhood Planning Forum is Wednesday.
Doubtless the Adventure playground will come up again. The minutes do not say much about but is was asked about at last meeting.
As much as I can get sense out of officers is that there is no decision to flog it off to a developer. But then there is roundabout talk of how money is needed for new youth centre and this is the way to get it. But of course no decision has been made.
The Masterplan consultation is still being disputed at the meetings re support for getting rid of the playground site. Council keep saying they are going back to Fluid to see what was actually said at the tables.
So only way to find out and ask is at these meetings.
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bimble
floofy
ok thanks will come to wednesday's meeting.
I did receive this email from councillor jane Pickard (Cabinet Member for Children and Families) the woman who attended the ,meeting at the playground months back:
"As you say, the organisation running the playground unfortunately decided to close it only a week or two after our meeting there. As I understand it, the whole thing is still part of the discussions regarding the regeneration of the area. I've not heard any more, but ideally we would like to see the Marcus Lipton youth club rebuilt and provide some play space for younger children as well as its historic provision for older young people. Whether that would be enclosed, as an APG, or open, depends on what money can be raised and other provision in the area.
I understand officers and the Young Lambeth Co-op are in discussions with Marcus Lipton about this, but I am not up to date on it. I'll try to find out where we are and let you know. "
Gramsci
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I don’t agree we live in a system where no one is forced to work. A look at the politics pages on Urban shows the hard time people get who are on benefits.
The issue is what work is really necessary for society to function and how working week can be reduced to the minimum.
When I talk to people no one I know really wants to work the hours they do just to pay the bills. Or not as a lot of people really struggle on the pittance they get. Which is what the reality of work for most people. When I talk to people most say they would like working day/ week to be reduced. They would also like a living wage.
The "citizen wage" is an interesting one as it brings into question the compulsion to work. The reality of the society we live in is that people are free in a formal sense to sell there labour. But that in practise for most people they have little control over there labour. In Marxist sense our ability to labour is a commodity, of a special kind, that is to be bought and sold. The idea of a "citizen wage" is a move away from that. Its a reformist measure but an interesting one. The other proposal is reducing the working day to six hours ( 30 hour week) with no loss of earnings. Its all possible.
cuppa tee
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2 bedroom flat in Fiveways....... yours for £800k
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41494560.html
developers dream
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41494560.html
developers dream
Gramsci
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2 bedroom flat in Fiveways....... yours for £800k
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41494560.html
developers dream
"investment property"
This also is a wind up:
Like the way it say wealthy middle class.
Makes one understand why people of the Loughborough Estate get wary of any improvements to the area.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Quite likely this is a Right to Buy property."investment property"
It looks very like the place is on Fiveways Road, and most of the houses from Loughborough Road up to Gresham Road were CPO'd back in the 1950s/60s prior to building the Angell Town Estate. Those that were not demolished to build new dwellings were let out as council flats after subdivision, or leased to housing associations for social rent.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Not sure what the threshold is - but going on the Rightmove photos it is definitely not vacant.
I found a chart in this document taking its figures from Tory policy proposals issued immediately before the election:
http://www.cih.org/resources/PDF/Policy free download pdfs/Selling off the stock - final.pdf
That suggests that a 2 bedroom flat of £400,000 is high enough to be "high value" so this one is well within.
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