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I know it's easy to overestimate speeds as a bystander but I reckon I quite regularly see people doing 50 or 60 on HHR. Mainly at night.
 
I know it's easy to overestimate speeds as a bystander but I reckon I quite regularly see people doing 50 or 60 on HHR. Mainly at night.

I wouldn't have thought so. 40mph I could easily believe. 60mph is ridiculously fast.

What I'm unclear about is whether or not this includes TfL roads within Lambeth (ie. most of the A-roads)

It won't include those. In other boroughs with blanket 20mph limits the TFL roads are still 30mph.
 
There's been an increase in young men without helmets tearing down the road on motorbikes lately.
They wear bandanas to hide their faces.
 
There's been an increase in young men without helmets tearing down the road on motorbikes lately.
They wear bandanas to hide their faces.
Yes I've noticed this, they're often also on rally bikes not road bikes so no number plates for them to be traced
 
I wouldn't have thought so. 40mph I could easily believe. 60mph is ridiculously fast.
It won't include those. In other boroughs with blanket 20mph limits the TFL roads are still 30mph.

I find this so confusing, with my driver hat on I tend to travel most places at 20 mph anyway but there are many roads that it's unclear whether you're supposed to be doing 20 or 30, CHL towards Camberwell is an example it seems to change a few times so consequently most people just do 30
 
I find this so confusing, with my driver hat on I tend to travel most places at 20 mph anyway but there are many roads that it's unclear whether you're supposed to be doing 20 or 30, CHL towards Camberwell is an example it seems to change a few times so consequently most people just do 30

It is confusing. That's why it'll be better when it's 20mph everywhere.
 
Yes I've noticed this, they're often also on rally bikes not road bikes so no number plates for them to be traced
Yes, I suspect some are related to crime. But there are also some regulars so maybe some a local kid got a new one. I remember the excitement when my first boyfriend got a car.
 
I'm really lucky I don't usually have to do it but the last few days been getting on the train from LJ into town around 8am and it is so packed you have to breathe in, people get left standing on the platform because there's just no room at all. What's going to happen when all these new flats get built here & hundreds more commuters move in?
 
During the planning process for the higgs development they claimed the impact would be negligible but I was not very convinced by their workings.

When we get the new trains in a couple of years they will have a higher capacity on account of having more standing room. But I suspect that extra capacity will be quickly filled up.
 
I'm really lucky I don't usually have to do it but the last few days been getting on the train from LJ into town around 8am and it is so packed you have to breathe in, people get left standing on the platform because there's just no room at all. What's going to happen when all these new flats get built here & hundreds more commuters move in?
I think they'll have to reconsider the service on the Wimbledon Loop. The number of trains is limited by the need to cross over the Thameslink main line outside Blackfriars. If Loop trains terminated at Blackfriars, they'd be able to double the number of trains per hour, but you'd have to change at Blackfriars for destinations further North.

This was going to happen a few years ago, but there was sufficient local opposition to get the plans shelved. As a result, Catford Ashford and Wimbledon trains all cross over each other in the station throat and capacity is limited.

The thameslink main line is about to get a massive capacity upgrade with new 12-car trains running 24 per hour through the tunnel. When that's up and running, I wouldn't mind chingin at Clackfriars if it meant having breathing room on my Loop train.
 
Most people seem to get off at Blackfriars as it is, after that you can breathe (and, in my case the other day, move enough to pull your coat out from where it was stuck in the closing doors all the way from LJ). :facepalm:
 
I think they'll have to reconsider the service on the Wimbledon Loop. The number of trains is limited by the need to cross over the Thameslink main line outside Blackfriars. If Loop trains terminated at Blackfriars, they'd be able to double the number of trains per hour, but you'd have to change at Blackfriars for destinations further North.

This was going to happen a few years ago, but there was sufficient local opposition to get the plans shelved. As a result, Catford Ashford and Wimbledon trains all cross over each other in the station throat and capacity is limited.

The thameslink main line is about to get a massive capacity upgrade with new 12-car trains running 24 per hour through the tunnel. When that's up and running, I wouldn't mind chingin at Clackfriars if it meant having breathing room on my Loop train.
I agree that having a more frequent service is a higher priority than having through trains into the core and I think the campaign to preserve those a couple of years ago was a mistake.

It's not just the crossing of services at Backfriars that makes the Wimbledon loop problematic though; there are complicated crossings at Herne Hill and Tulse Hill too for example.
 
I often wonder if they have any idea how many people use the station as it's rare that people touch in with their Oyster card.
 
If Loop trains terminated at Blackfriars, they'd be able to double the number of trains per hour, but you'd have to change at Blackfriars for destinations further North.

I understand that four Thameslink main line trains are presently passing through Loughborough Junction in each direction without stopping - diverted due to works at London Bridge to be completed in early 2018. This suggests there may be capacity for more trains from the Wimbledon loop line to Blackfriars when the main line trains are back to normal.
 
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I often wonder if they have any idea how many people use the station as it's rare that people touch in with their Oyster card.
I've often felt like this. Off peak LJ - Elephant or places like Haydons Road is pretty much a free ride to those who wish to avoid paying.
There also must be a way round the barriers at Victoria - many people don't touch in on Brixton BR Station Victoria bound.

Funnily enough Network Rail are not planning any "access improvements" of any kind in conjunction with their Arch refurbishment operations!
 
I have a monthly and rarely touch in on the overground lines. There's generally not enough of them and the queue/pile up is off putting.
 
So if you've got a Z1&2 monthly on an oyster, and you don't touch in at LJ but then touch out at Farringdon, say, doesn't it suspect you of having started your journey in Zone 6 and therefore outside of your zones, like what happens on Oyster PAYG?
 
That's correct. Sometimes I only touch in on one end or it can't be read for whatever reason and it presumes that I have travelled within the scope of the travel card. However, that's with my journey history. You give a fair bit of info when you register so it's all computer based I'd imagine.
 
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