Loughborough Junction chitter-chatter

[bimble]

He wants to study IT. I have promised to encourage him.

A Co-Op security man update:
He's been missing for weeks and I finally enquired about it today:
The manager said not to worry he will be back sometime in January, has not left for a glittering IT career is just on holiday "in Africa".

BUT, he also took the opportunity to have a dig at said lovely security man, told me that he is not good at his job because he's too friendly, has been caught out more than once having a chat with people like me or you whilst in the next isle someone is busy nicking stuff of the shelves.

 

[Gramsci]

I find the security at the Coop shop irritating. They always seem to be peering around the shelves when I go in. Just try to not have eye contact with them when I go in.

Me being a Coop member its all the more annoying.

I do not get this at the mylocal shop opposite Tescos where I get my Polish beers. Nor do I get it in Tescos where there is a security guard.

 

[bimble]

I find the security at the Coop shop irritating. They always seem to be peering around the shelves when I go in. Just try to not have eye contact with them when I go in.

Me being a Coop member its all the more annoying.

I do not get this at the mylocal shop opposite Tescos where I get my Polish beers. Nor do I get it in Tescos where there is a security guard.

That is because lovely co-op security man is on holiday.
You wait, he will return (I hope) and will wish you a good afternoon more than once every time you grace the place, before he gets sacked for niceness.

 

[Gramsci]

Always amazed at the amount of thrown away stuff around LJ. So far Ive got drier, cutlery, plates, cups, decent pilows and a toaster. And that does not include stuff I didn’t pick up

On my travels today saw kitchen table and and a bed thrown out.

 

[bimble]

Always amazed at the amount of thrown away stuff around LJ. So far Ive got drier, cutlery, plates, cups, decent pilows and a toaster.

On my travels today saw kitchen table and and a bed thrown out.

It's a right bumper crop right now round the junction I noted today.. If you want seatless chairs and empty cans of cider
I did find treasure a couple of weeks ago just sat on a wall though: A victorian (i think) jewellery box, complete with key and purple plush lining. No jewels inside but still.

 

[Gramsci]

It's a right bumper crop right now round the junction I noted today.. If you want seatless chairs and empty can of cider

Its my habit as ex squatter and Short Life. We lived out of skips and bins. Salvaging stuff to use. It always worth a good look around to see.

I have got a Roberts radio that was chucked out - but that was up near Regents Park outside a posh house.

 

[Lizzy Mac]

The security guards at our local Tesco Express are always on their mobile phones. It makes me laugh. One of them told me that I work too hard when he saw me in my work clothes.

 

[Gramsci]

The security guards at our local Tesco Express are always on their mobile phones. It makes me laugh. One of them told me that I work too hard when he saw me in my work clothes.

There are always on there phones. Thats my kind of security guard.

When I was in Brixton stopped using Tescos due to the ice rink issue.

But started to use the LJ one when moved up here. I got to like it. They staff treat people in a good way and it has more of the cheaper lines than some other Tesco Express. Also a lot of people from local estates use it. Feel more at home there.

I do try to use the Coop as its the Coop. But its pricey except for some items. The couscous is cheap. And so is the bread.

 

[teuchter]

With the supermarket analyses we seem to have come full circle from page 1 of this thread.

 

[CH1]

With the supermarket analyses we seem to have come full circle from page 1 of this thread.

OK where's the Waitrose going to be then?

 

[Jangleballix]

OK where's the Waitrose going to be then?

Until that great day dawns we'll just have to get used to the new one on Nine Elms Lane.

 

[CH1]

Until that great day dawns we'll just have to get used to the new one on Nine Elms Lane.

Clearly the 345 needs re-routing to take in Nine Elms and the new US embassy. For transport nerds this would make a closer symbiosis with route 344 - something LT/TFL seem keen to do.

As an emergency short term measure the P5 could be extended from Patmore Estate to Nine Elms Waitrose perhaps?

 

[bimble]

Feel a bit shy asking this, due to some past history relating to whether or not I am in fact Jeremy Clarkson etc but..

I want to learn to drive this year- not thinking of buying a car at all but do want to get a license so I could very occasionally rent one and get myself to places that trains and coaches don't go but I'm really nervous about the whole thing, to the point where it's not far off a phobia (have been in accidents as a passenger).

Anyway, does anyone by chance have a recommendation of good experience with a very patient local driving instructor ?

 

[Jangleballix]

Feel a bit shy asking this, due to some past history relating to whether or not I am in fact Jeremy Clarkson etc but..

I want to learn to drive this year- not thinking of buying a car at all but do want to get a license so I could very occasionally rent one and get myself to places that trains and coaches don't go but I'm really nervous about the whole thing, to the point where it's not far off a phobia (have been in accidents as a passenger).

Anyway, does anyone by chance have a recommendation of good experience with a very patient local driving instructor ?

Have a lesson with Chris and see if you get on:
Chris Osibona at The AA

 

[bimble]

Have a lesson with Chris and see if you get on:
Chris Osibona at The AA

Thanks .. any alternative to facebook (not on there so unable to see the page )

 

[Jangleballix]

Thanks .. any alternative to facebook (not on there so unable to see the page )

07961 411104

 

[Angellic]

This arrived today.

Loughborough Junction Masterplan | Lambeth Council

 

[bimble]

^ Jesus F. Christ.
Just had a first look through the 'stage 2 consultation report'.

Please, anyone who was at that consultation tell me whether your table did what the report says "many tables" did:






ie) the consultation report says that there was a lot of support for the idea of replacing the adventure playground with flats, and making a new (tiny) playground inside the park opposite instead.

It does not mention 'improving' the adventure playground as an option at all.
It just talks about "replacing" it with some little crap thing in the park, to make way for the 5 storey flats that were shown in 2 out of the 4 options we were presented with that day.


I don't know - I'm just asking:
Please confirm if your table did come the conclusion above, supported the idea of getting rid of the adventure playground on Gordon Grove and replacing it with flats. Mine didn't.
There is no mention of any objections to this idea in the consultation report.



It concludes:

 

[irf520]

You should know all about Lambeth consultations by now. Only ask people who will give the answer you want.

When they said they were thinking about regenerating the adventure playground, maybe they meant reincarnating it - it would come back as a block of flats.

 

[bimble]

yep, it's a very impressive piece of doublespeak when regenerate actually means obliterate.

 

[CH1]

yep, it's a very impressive piece of doublespeak when regenerate actually means obliterate.

I have indigestion from this - and shingles from a £65 NHS Yellow Fever shot.

The most note-worthily odd suggestion in the report seemed to have an 8-10 screen multiplex public cinema instead of the "exclusive cinema club"
Luckily the consultants don't think it "likely to be viable"

I say to whoever thought that was a good idea - get in some crates of special brew and hold an open house with your Sky 51" TV! I'm sure the same general effect will be produced and you'll have plenty of new friends.

 

[Gramsci]

^ Jesus F. Christ.
Just had a first look through the 'stage 2 consultation report'.

Please, anyone who was at that consultation tell me whether your table did what the report says "many tables" did:

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ie) the consultation report says that there was a lot of support for the idea of replacing the adventure playground with flats, and making a new (tiny) playground inside the park opposite instead.

It does not mention 'improving' the adventure playground as an option at all.
It just talks about "replacing" it with some little crap thing in the park, to make way for the 5 storey flats that were shown in 2 out of the 4 options we were presented with that day.


I don't know - I'm just asking:
Please confirm if your table did come the conclusion above, supported the idea of getting rid of the adventure playground on Gordon Grove and replacing it with flats. Mine didn't.
There is no mention of any objections to this idea in the consultation report.



It concludes:

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I am not sure if you were at my table.

I was at table with Anthea of LJAG and also two people from the community/ youth centre.

The idea of putting flats next to the community centre was firmly opposed on our table. Mainly because of possible complaints from new flats about noise and disturbance which would restrict what the community centre could offer. The idea of building a new community with flats above was also opposed for same reason.

My table also opposed the loss of the adventure playground on its present site. Its next to the youth centre and the two activities go together.

We also opposed any loss of the Elam open space.

Have not had looked at the report yet.

 

[Gramsci]

This is "officer speak" - "appropriate and beneficial manner" . What does this mean? Clearing a site for sale to a developer.

 

[Gramsci]

Interesting response from Council on page 21 of the report:

To the fact that building housing on the Marcus Lipton centre site was not supported by those attending this consultation Council response is:

This is council owned land that is not utilised to its full potential, the youth centre is out of date and this is already a residential area that could benefit from improvements both in the environmental and building quality. Crucially, development here will raise money for the Council which can be re-invested into other projects in Loughborough Junction (such as improving open space for instance). Any new development would reprovide an improved youth centre.

In short the Council will take note of community views ( admittedly a small cross section of community. But from what I saw fairly representative) but will over ride them if it see fit.

At least the report acknowledges that this is opposed.

The Council response does not say but implies that they are thinking of getting a developer to build housing for private sale.

At the meeting the Council did say they need to allow more housing to be built. They also have to meet targets set by Mayor. As London has a housing shortage.

Opinions on what kind of housing were not asked of the people consulted.

Social housing appears to be low priority of the Council. At next follow up meeting might be idea to ask about what kind of housing.

 

[critical1]

^ Jesus F. Christ.
Just had a first look through the 'stage 2 consultation report'.

Please, anyone who was at that consultation tell me whether your table did what the report says "many tables" did:

View attachment 81657

View attachment 81658


ie) the consultation report says that there was a lot of support for the idea of replacing the adventure playground with flats, and making a new (tiny) playground inside the park opposite instead.

It does not mention 'improving' the adventure playground as an option at all.
It just talks about "replacing" it with some little crap thing in the park, to make way for the 5 storey flats that were shown in 2 out of the 4 options we were presented with that day.


I don't know - I'm just asking:
Please confirm if your table did come the conclusion above, supported the idea of getting rid of the adventure playground on Gordon Grove and replacing it with flats. Mine didn't.
There is no mention of any objections to this idea in the consultation report.



It concludes:

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The table I was on said no, a majority of the tables said NO, maybe the reference is to times tables?

I simply adore this statement "Crucially, development here will raise money for the Council which can be re-invested into other projects in Loughborough Junction (such as improving open space for instance)." err which ones and how much??? comes to mind.

 

[CH1]

Seems to me that Lambeth Council's consultations are not consultations at all - but rather a well-tested ploy used in the business world where you create Fear Uncertainty and Doubt [FUD] in order to make the "client group" more vulnerable and malleable.

By the time there's been a few spoof reports of what went on at "the tables" we are now waiting for the roulette wheel to stop so we can experience the relief of knowing exactly what the bastards are going to do.

Forget Progress, Momentum and Co-op Labour. At gentrification Ground Zero it's all Fear Uncertainty and Doubt!

Wikipedia
"Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a disinformation strategy used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics and propaganda. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and a manifestation of the appeal to fear."

 

[bimble]

By the time there's been a few spoof reports of what went on at "the tables" we are now waiting for the roulette wheel to stop so we can experience the relief of knowing exactly what the bastards are going to do.

Forget Progress, Momentum and Co-op Labour. At gentrification Ground Zero it's all Fear Uncertainty and Doubt!

Don't worry, I'm sure they will be able to explain how they arrived at the statement that "many tables agreed that destroying the playground and replacing it with flats was a great idea".

I'm just going to pop an email over to Fluid, asking to see the statistics on how many of the tables selected options 3 or 4 (the ones which showed no more adventure playground at all). No doubt they will have the paper evidence right there ready to share with us.

 

[Lizzy Mac]

I had a very local day today. Bugsy Malone at the Whirled Cinema for Kids. I wholeheartedly recommend this. £3.50 to get in, popcorn and sweets at £1. Please do try it if you have kids as it needs and deserves our support. What a great event.
I then tried to have brunch/lunch at The Cambria but as usual something went wrong, the chef was late today. Luckily I saw it as a good opportunity to try The Junction and it was lovely. Veggie burger and chips for £7.50, my new favourite, amazing grub for the price.

 

[leanderman]

Bugsy Malone at the Whirled Cinema for Kids.

Dammit! Bought Bugsy Malone on Amazon Prime yesterday.

 

[SpamMisery]

Great film. Only discovered recently it was British - I always assumed it was American made.