Loughborough Junction chitter-chatter

[prunus]

No idea exactly how curvy they are, but the rule is that station platforms can't be located on horizontal curves with radii less than 1000m. Work that one out if you can!

Is that true? I hope so, otherwise I've just wasted a goodly time on google maps and gimp to work out that the curvature radius of the Denmark Hill-bound platforms at LJ is no more than 250m, which means no platforms

Why are curved platforms considered dangerous?

 

[Rushy]

Is that true? I hope so, otherwise I've just wasted a goodly time on google maps and gimp to work out that the curvature radius of the Denmark Hill-bound platforms at LJ is no more than 250m, which means no platforms

Why are curved platforms considered dangerous?

Mind the Gap.
(straight carriages don't fit curved platforms)

 

[Crispy]

The new Thameslink platforms at Farringdon are way tighter than 1000m radius and the Northern ends are way steeper than should be allowed. So the rules can be bent. But IIRC, NR have already flat-out refused any calls to re-open those platforms as the trains are already very busy and can't handle the extra passengers and journey time.

What would make more sense, IMO, is running the Sutton Loop as a segregated service, allowing Camberwell and Walworth stations to be re-opened.

 

[teuchter]

What would make more sense, IMO, is running the Sutton Loop as a segregated service, allowing Camberwell and Walworth stations to be re-opened.

This sounds like the kind of suggestion someone who lived closer to Camberwell/Walworth stations than LJ might make

 

[Crispy]

This sounds like the kind of suggestion someone who lived closer to Camberwell/Walworth stations than LJ might make

I moved to Brixton Hill 2 years ago

 

[teuchter]

I moved to Brixton Hill 2 years ago

Yuppie

 

[Crispy]

Yuppie

IN

 

[CH1]

Had a wicked thought following on from the Loughborough House/LJAG Plaza banter.
If things moved along the same lines as Canterbury Arms - i.e. a cash-rich non-local housing developer in league with Lambeth Planning, then maybe the outcome could be this type of thing:

This is the New York Flatiron" building. Renaissance style 1902 apparently.
Lambeth could insist it be updated to incorporate non-functioning wind turbines on top in the Elephant and Castle manner. Note how the footprint would neatly fit in the triangular space between the Loughborough Junction rail lines. The ground floor could also contain an up-graded station vestibule serving platforms on both lines.

 

[teuchter]

We've already got one of those in LJ

 

[Rushy]

Had a wicked thought following on from the Loughborough House/LJAG Plaza banter.
If things moved along the same lines as Canterbury Arms - i.e. a cash-rich non-local housing developer in league with Lambeth Planning, then maybe the outcome could be this type of thing:
View attachment 50965
This is the New York Flatiron" building. Renaissance style 1902 apparently.
Lambeth could insist it be updated to incorporate non-functioning wind turbines on top in the Elephant and Castle manner. Note how the footprint would neatly fit in the triangular space between the Loughborough Junction rail lines. The ground floor could also contain an up-graded station vestibule serving platforms on both lines.

The old Central Brixton development plan phase 2 (for which The Railway was CPOd) included a tower in the yard behind the pub (where the market has been applied for). It was circular with a lightwell down the middle over the existing underground tunnel vent.

 

[CH1]

The old Central Brixton development plan phase 2 (for which The Railway was CPOd) included a tower in the yard behind the pub (where the market has been applied for). It was circular with a lightwell down the middle over the existing underground tunnel vent.

Thanks for that info. Obviously tower blocks were very much in the air for Brixton in the 1960s/70s proposals.

As for LJ - something like I suggested there would be distinctive, without necessarily being too oppressive. Can't see a developer wanting to do it though - unless Network Rail promoted it.

There is a big redevelopment coming up nearby by the way at 2 Barrington Road (new eight storey building with 104 flats) http://planning.lambeth.gov.uk/onli...ils.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=N1KBX5BO67000

 

[Rushy]

Thanks for that info. Obviously tower blocks were very much in the air for Brixton in the 1960s/70s proposals.

I was talking about 2000! I can't find the plans.

 

[CH1]

We've already got one of those in LJ

View attachment 50966

That doesn't have the necessary grandeur. It is the best example I have ever seen of infill though.

 

[CH1]

I was talking about 2000! I can't find the plans.

Does this have any bearing on the Brixton Central Masterplan meeting tomorrow? I got the impression that tomorrow they were dealing with railway arches Brixton Station Road and Atlantic Road plus the former car park/ice rink.

 

[editor]

Had a wicked thought following on from the Loughborough House/LJAG Plaza banter.
If things moved along the same lines as Canterbury Arms - i.e. a cash-rich non-local housing developer in league with Lambeth Planning, then maybe the outcome could be this type of thing:
View attachment 50965
This is the New York Flatiron" building. Renaissance style 1902 apparently.
Lambeth could insist it be updated to incorporate non-functioning wind turbines on top in the Elephant and Castle manner. Note how the footprint would neatly fit in the triangular space between the Loughborough Junction rail lines. The ground floor could also contain an up-graded station vestibule serving platforms on both lines.

Mini Me.

http://www.urban75.org/blog/a-very-very-thin-house-coldharbour-lane-brixton-sw9/

 

[Rushy]

Does this have any bearing on the Brixton Central Masterplan meeting tomorrow? I got the impression that tomorrow they were dealing with railway arches Brixton Station Road and Atlantic Road plus the former car park/ice rink.

I don't think so. Those phase 2 plans were shelved AFAIK. Sainsbury's, Argos etc.. were Phase 1.

 

[Rushy]

Thanks for that info. Obviously tower blocks were very much in the air for Brixton in the 1960s/70s proposals.

As for LJ - something like I suggested there would be distinctive, without necessarily being too oppressive. Can't see a developer wanting to do it though - unless Network Rail promoted it.

There is a big redevelopment coming up nearby by the way at 2 Barrington Road (new eight storey building with 104 flats) http://planning.lambeth.gov.uk/onli...ils.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=N1KBX5BO67000

Er, sorry. I just clocked this is the LoBo thread!

Was wandering about there this morning. So much going on.

 

[ringo]

Mini Me.

http://www.urban75.org/blog/a-very-very-thin-house-coldharbour-lane-brixton-sw9/

It's always amazed me that got built, must be tiny

 

[editor]

I wrote a piece about the old Warrior pub here

http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2014/03/...nd-a-supermarket-a-depressing-brixton-vision/

There's a long running thread on the long lost boozer here too:
http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/any-ideas-for-the-warrior-pub.1574/

 

[Manter]

It's always amazed me that got built, must be tiny

There is one like that in west London I drove past on Friday- the end has been knocked out so it's completely glass, which must make it feel airier inside. (But it really irritated me that the house was untidy and I could see it while sat in traffic )

 

[teuchter]

There's one at the bottom of railton rd too.

 

[editor]

A little Loughborough Junction photo feature:

A world of Arthur Daley lock-ups and battered garages at Rathgar Road, Loughborough Junction, SW9

 

[Crispy]

Should've carried on under the viaduct to get some pics of the old railway power station

Glad we didn't take that arch now, it really was a mess
But there are so many unused arches round there. Some of the ones to the west of shakespseare road are absolutely cavernous. But they're hidden all the way along the alley, so are really hard to put to use.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Someone should be raving in there.


(Someone let me know if it turns out they are please.)

 

[Crispy]

Someone should be raving in there.
(Someone let me know if it turns out they are please.)

The next arch along has some rotting speaker cabs in it (minus the drivers)

About half way between that one and Arch 269, there was another illegal nightclub, this one with much better decor than 269

 

[ChrisSouth]

A little Loughborough Junction photo feature:

A world of Arthur Daley lock-ups and battered garages at Rathgar Road, Loughborough Junction, SW9

Love this feature. I've lived in the area of nigh on 20 years or more and have never been down that road. I may well now venture out

 

[Lizzy Mac]

Has anyone tried the new 'Antiques and Vintage' place? It's at the back of the industrial estate where MDM Props is.

 

[teuchter]

I've been meaning to have a look.

 

[Lizzy Mac]

I recommend this, the new antique/vintage place in the Industrial estate at the Loughborough Junction end of Herne Hill Road. I managed to get there today and it is full of real curiosities.
I got a bedside cabinet for £20.
I couldn't do justice to the full range of items available here, I can only say go down there.
They are closed tomorrow Saturday 5th but are aiming to be open weekends shortly. There is a contact number on the door that you can ring to arrange an appointment.

 

[editor]

Loughborough Farm project looks ace:

http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2014/04/...borough-junction-a-community-growing-project/