My friend's Colombian housemate used to hang out there a lot but think he was into less wholesome pursuits (dubious drugs and random sex mainly).Saw that ! The swimming bit was pretty rammed in the summer, wouldn't get in there myself , can't be the cleanest of water with all the stuff up-river
London: the unlockening/relockening
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marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
There's a Brazilian cafe/Butchers in Upper Clapton, another one in Stamford Hill, but I think the community is more Seven Sisters which is just outside Hackney.
Yeah and at least one Brazilian shop/butchers on Mare St too.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Summer in a pandemic: How Londoners were drawn to a river
When Sophia Evans visited the River Lea near Hackney Marshes she was astonished by the scenes of blissful enjoyment she saw there – a world away from the horrors of the newswww.theguardian.com
Really wouldn't
I walk along there really often and see the crap that's in the water -- no way I'd be going anywhere near it.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Hopefully they wont lead the way in a more worrisome regard:
Covid: South African variant in Wandsworth and Lambeth surge test areas
NHS Test and Trace says 44 cases of the South African variant in two areas is "significant".
www.bbc.co.uk
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Do we know what was the outcome of the previous 'surge testing' efforts in S london (and elsewhere) - do we know to what extenet they helped to identify and/or contain things?Hopefully they wont lead the way in a more worrisome regard:
Covid: South African variant in Wandsworth and Lambeth surge test areas
NHS Test and Trace says 44 cases of the South African variant in two areas is "significant".www.bbc.co.uk
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I havent seen much area-specific data. I certainly wouldnt expect such efforts to result in complete containment, since there is too much lag and nowhere near 100% surveillance for that result to be expected. And I might expect engagement with test systems to drop in the vaccination era, down from a level that wasnt all that impressive to start with.
Its still a useful exercise since it should give some sense of prevalence of new strains, but I think of it in terms of broad surveillance more than anything else. It may also have a useful psychological effect, but this too will be very incomplete.
The very limited amount of info in the public domain and the very limited nature of the media reporting on it means I cannot even answer simple questions such as whether the cases discovered more recently are descendants of the smaller clusters they discovered in these locations earlier in the year.
Cloo
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I've seen pics of Soho yesterday and already people going 'Selfish bastards, here comes the third wave' etc, but they looked liked they were perfectly well spread out outdoors in small groups and I didn't see anything especially irresponsible about this. I do tire of people seeing anyone doing anything other than staying at home starting to yell about 'Third wave!'
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Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
I walked through Soho yesterday. It was perfectly safe.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
bustards aren't seabirds. they live mainly in grasslands
Yeah, I completly agree. We get a bit of it here too but I think its a bit more understandable here because its a place people can vent or get out their frustrations in a way we wouldn't necessarily do in the real world.
I do get that some people are very scared and I do get how this situation is causing huge anxiety (I feel it myself when I'm out and about and I'm statistically fairly low risk) but there needs to be an understanding that we require a balance. So much has been sacrificed and lockdown has been so terrible for so many that hating on people just trying to gain a small bit of enjoyment within the rules seems a bit much.
I think there is something interesting going on here and its more than just the pandemic itself, its become a vector for other frustrations and anger about the world in general. There is probably an interesting thread in here somewhere but perhaps not at the moment.
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davesgcr
Reading books
For what it's worth I had my first run up today since before Xmas - trains to Manor Park , local buses - 3 seperate tube rides.
Impeccable spacing and mask wearing (yes we all hate them) , on public transport and pretty much people just glad to be released and out in this good weather. Tube busier than national rail , but evident that there is some real worker as in suit / business traffic around and though it is a long way to go , it feels like a bit of normality coming back. Central London away from retail areas , has some activity at last.
I could have had a drink when I got to home station - several pubs serving outside , but being a good bloke I had to go back and do the dinner preparatons !
Impeccable spacing and mask wearing (yes we all hate them) , on public transport and pretty much people just glad to be released and out in this good weather. Tube busier than national rail , but evident that there is some real worker as in suit / business traffic around and though it is a long way to go , it feels like a bit of normality coming back. Central London away from retail areas , has some activity at last.
I could have had a drink when I got to home station - several pubs serving outside , but being a good bloke I had to go back and do the dinner preparatons !
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I've learned from the last relaxations of regs that this is the time to do things, before the infection rate builds up. It won't be because of people going to pubs, but a whole load more people commuting and working, only a very small number of whom will have been vaccinated, yeah I can absolutely see it happening again.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Johnson will dance round 10 Downing Street going oops I did it again
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
It will be "you did it again". Just like the last time. If only people had properly followed the rules etc etc. No chance that the rules might have been the problem.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
When he's on his own he can be honest with himself while he's singing along to britney spears
elbows
Well-Known Member
That narrative got very little traction last time. And even the government chose mostly to hide behind the new variant instead.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Funny enough, lots of people on here were moaning about the schools re-opening so early, and forecasting doom & gloom, with massive increases in cases, and what actually happened?
Despite a massive increase in testing, and the more you look, the more you find, cases have actually dropped by about 60% since the 8th March.
Despite some rabied backbench Tory MPs & rags like the Mail & Sun demanding the roadmap is speeded up, the [otherwise crap] government is sticking to it, the 5 week gap between restrictions being lifted seems reasonable to me, and as long as they stick with that & the data backs them up, I am happy enough.
Whilst vaccines will not totally solve this problem, they will help to bring it under control, and the bottom line is you can't keep people locked-up forever.
BigMoaner
We will all go together
Was up there last night and it was very calm, orderly with social distancing etc. Covent garden was not even that busy, whilst Leicester Square had a large but not massive crowd. This was at 10pm too, prime crazy hour. It was all winding down nicely by the time I left at 10.45 or so.
Cloo
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I do actually feel the roadmap is mostly reasonable aside from Boris' Magic Day of Freedom on 21 June. Part of me thinks they're mostly proposing it as they think that once you allow anything beyond small outdoor parties and one other household over indoors it'll be a total free-for-all anyway?
