London Student protests - Wed 8th Dec+ Thurs 9th

[gunneradt]

I'm approaching middle age you fucking robbing bastard.

oops - about time you acted your age really then!!

 

[gunneradt]

make the rich pay

really hoping that the tax burden can be reduced over the next five years!!!

 

[belboid]

there's a suprise

 

[Proper Tidy]

oops - about time you acted your age really then!!

I do. I started my transformation into adulthood by accepting that only twats use multiple exclamation marks, you dirty robbing bastard.

 

[gunneradt]

I do. I started my transformation into adulthood by accepting that only twats use multiple exclamation marks, you dirty robbing bastard.

see you've positively calmed down - only one swear word in that sentence.

 

[Proper Tidy]

see you've positively calmed down - only one swear word in that sentence.

Fuck off tax thief (!!!!!)

 

[Tankus]

there's a suprise

so was your answer ..

..what about the bit on bulk and quality inorder to hide youth unemployment .?...dont you think there should be some reform?

 

[nino_savatte]

Or the poll tax riots.

Yep.

 

[Proper Tidy]

so was your answer ..

..what about the bit on bulk and quality inorder to hide youth unemployment .?...dont you think there should be some reform?

What?

 

[peterkro]

A day late and 20p short,a heartfelt thanks to the protesters each and everyone of them(even the twats with glowing necklaces).Where are the complicated verbals twists from D-B?Before anyone bleats on about teenage angst I'm 60 years old and ashamed I didn't make the effort to join in.

(of course it should go without saying Fuck off Moon)

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

lol, I've just been accused of "supporting terrorism" on Facebook for posting up a picture of the royal car getting attacked

 

[kabbes]

There's no two ways about it. The police used inappropriate violence against innocent and defenceless children and those only just out of childhood.

All the talk in the world about "spotty youths", people throwing missiles and sneering at "middle class spongers" doesn't change that simple fact.

The question is this: if you have been brutalised by the police for nothing more than --legally-- happening to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, should you have a comeback? Or should you really be expected to just suck it up, because the police are sacrosanct and untouchable?

 

[Tankus]

What?

this bit sorry....... quoting my shite

Why dont we have a bit on honesty about our education system ?
Labour have pumped money into the system .........but in the decade from 2000/10 we have dropped from 7th to 27th in the worlds educational league tables .....standards have fallen as labour has gone from quality to bulk ..money is not the answer. (we now have no money anyway )

The real primary objective was to increase the school leaving age to reduce the numbers of unemployed young....... It was a ticking time bomb that has now gone off ...thats why labour instigated the brown review with cross party support. It was unsustainable .

The tory answer is exactly the same as the labour one ..just changing the billing source........ It is a delaying tactic ....... £30k debit's (but insn't debits bad ?) at the end of a lower value degree ,not suited to the job market , and lots of them vying for the same job, how long do you think that money is going to take to get repaid ? when they will take any job they can get?.....Some future government's problems and cost.

 

[Proper Tidy]

this bit sorry....... quoting my shite

So the answer to alleged falling education standards is to cut funding?

 

[gentlegreen]

There's no two ways about it. The police used inappropriate violence against innocent and defenceless children and those only just out of childhood.

All the talk in the world about "spotty youths", people throwing missiles and sneering at "middle class spongers" doesn't change that simple fact.

The question is this: if you have been brutalised by the police for nothing more than --legally-- happening to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, should you have a comeback? Or should you really be expected to just suck it up, because the police are sacrosanct and untouchable?

But we have had people on this thread suggesting that these "innocent and defenceless children and those only just out of childhood." should have been allowed to proceed to the HOP and attack the MPs - the implication being that was the original intent.

 

[scifisam]

There's no two ways about it. The police used inappropriate violence against innocent and defenceless children and those only just out of childhood.

All the talk in the world about "spotty youths", people throwing missiles and sneering at "middle class spongers" doesn't change that simple fact.

The question is this: if you have been brutalised by the police for nothing more than --legally-- happening to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, should you have a comeback? Or should you really be expected to just suck it up, because the police are sacrosanct and untouchable?

Ideally you should hold back from hitting/harming actual people, especially if they're not the precise people who hit you, but it's more than understandable if you don't manage that.

It's not understandable when the police 'fight back.' The police should be trained to keep their own reactions under control, especially with the back-up of hundreds of other armed officers, armour and the might of the law. We should expect more restraint from them than the average person, not less.

And neither should start the violence, but given what I said about the police above, it's far worse when they do. Kettling and horse charges are violence.

 

[belboid]

So the answer to alleged falling education standards is to cut funding?

no, its to make sure only the right people get educated, and then to include only them in the figures so it looks like 'the country' is doing better! This is how league table work.

 

[TruXta]

There's no two ways about it. The police used inappropriate violence against innocent and defenceless children and those only just out of childhood.

All the talk in the world about "spotty youths", people throwing missiles and sneering at "middle class spongers" doesn't change that simple fact.

The question is this: if you have been brutalised by the police for nothing more than --legally-- happening to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, should you have a comeback? Or should you really be expected to just suck it up, because the police are sacrosanct and untouchable?

The police were attacked kabbes and how can you not see that? Vicious little thugs, they deserve no better than jackboots and hooves!


{Bitter and weary sarcasm in case people get the wrong idea}

 

[scifisam]

But we have had people on this thread suggesting that these "innocent and defenceless children and those only just out of childhood." should have been allowed to proceed to the HOP and attack the MPs - the implication being that was the original intent.

The protest didn't have a central organising body - there was no 'original intent.' FWIW, I see only one person suggesting that; why are you focusing on them alone? Because they're easier to build a strawman from?

 

[kabbes]

But we have had people on this thread suggesting that these "innocent and defenceless children and those only just out of childhood." should have been allowed to proceed to the HOP and attack the MPs - the implication being that was the original intent.

That's irrelevant. Again.

Look at the blogs coming out of the day. We're talking about 5-foot teenage girls being pushed from behind towards the police, only to have the police hit them in the face with a truncheon.

Everything else is a distraction from this central question: what should be done about this? Should we ignore it? Please, tell me.

 

[Proper Tidy]

no, its to make sure only the right people get educated, and then to include only them in the figures so it looks like 'the country' is doing better! This is how league table work.

So you think we should keep the poor people out of uni so as to keep the (meaningless) league tables looking good? I'm hoping I've misunderstood you.

 

[scifisam]

The police were attacked kabbes and how can you not see that? Vicious little thugs, they deserve no better than jackboots and hooves!


{Bitter and weary sarcasm in case people get the wrong idea}

A friend of an ex-friend said that anyone proven to have been at the protests should be barred from going to uni. This got six Facebook 'likes.'

 

[frogwoman]

lol, I've just been accused of "supporting terrorism" on Facebook for posting up a picture of the royal car getting attacked

 

[gunneradt]

Fuck off tax thief (!!!!!)

and you were doing so well too.

 

[shaman75]

Another protest on Monday: http://anticuts.org.uk/?page_id=1258

 

[kabbes]

A friend of an ex-friend said that anyone proven to have been at the protests should be barred from going to uni. This got six Facebook 'likes.'

There have always been a solid minority in this country that believe that simply going somewhere and holding a placard with a message should be illegal.

These people are utter wankers. They should be illegal.

 

[Proper Tidy]

and you were doing so well too.

How many charity boxes have you robbed lately?

 

[belboid]

So you think we should keep the poor people out of uni so as to keep the (meaningless) league tables looking good? I'm hoping I've misunderstood you.

I think thats what Tankus thniks

 

[ymu]

We need to think about providing our own toilet facilities for the next kettle. I'm thinking a funnel and some balloons for easy disposal ... set up nice and close to the police lines, natch.

 

[chilango]

But we have had people on this thread suggesting that these "innocent and defenceless children and those only just out of childhood." should have been allowed to proceed to the HOP and attack the MPs - the implication being that was the original intent.

If you mean me, not at all.

We should all be able to enter our parliament whenever and however we want. No implication of violence at all. Not from me anyway.