London Student protests - Wed 8th Dec+ Thurs 9th

[Fedayn]

teeny boppers losing any moral high ground they had according to the press this morning. Even Graeme Swann tweeted taking the piss out of idiot behaviour.

Oh well that's it then, some cricketer tweets something derogatory and you think that's of any importance? You're are a fucking clown.

 

[rekil]

The copper with white shoulder insignia and stripes on his helmet from 1:10 on looks exceptionally nasty.

 

[nino_savatte]

cobbles said, "The Government (as duly elected) represent the MAJORITY of the British people."

People didnt elect a coalition or LibDems in ordee from them to regage on promises.

Spot on. The Lib Dems didn't have to go into coalition with the Tories. They could have just as easily signed a confidence and supply agreement. As for them "representing a majority of the British people", that's just ignorant bullshit.

 

[nino_savatte]

The Government (as duly elected) represent the MAJORITY of the British people.

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Would you care to explain this deeply ignorant statement?

 

[A380]

Straw man of the day?

Not bad for half past nine...

 

[Vintage Paw]

There are some self-righteous cunts on the internet (and tv) right now about yesterday's protest. One guy advocating the further increase of tuition fees FOR ALL because someone ripped a union flag. That isn't uncommon, and from people I, well, didn't expect to be at the vanguard of the revolution but I held out hope for something better from.

There are not enough words to describe my rage at the situation.

(Apols, I feel very impotent when I feel this much rage.)

 

[TopCat]

 

[nino_savatte]

I think I may have to draft a letter of complaint to the BBC over their biased reporting. It's been disgraceful. They have

1. ignored the fact that the EMA is to be scrapped
2. Focussed solely on tuition fees and ignored the fact that the protests are about CUTS
3. Ignored police aggression and laid the blame on protesters.
4. Failed to question police tactics during the demo
5. 44 protester were injured and 12 coppers. How many of those injured protesters were victims of police violence?
6. Students who are interviewed in the studio are always asked "do you condone the violence"? It's an invitation to provocation.

Remember, the BBC's reporting of the Battle of Orgreave Colliery was entirely fabricated. The BBC also showed old footage of celebrating Palestinians in the aftermath of the World Trade Center attacks and presented it as current.

Ironically, ABC News had more balance than the BBC

 

[scifisam]

how cheaply can you get 'disposable' phones with twitter access?

I know this is an old post, but if you're going to use it only for posting rather than reading, you don't even need internet access - you can text your tweets in for the price of a normal text.

 

[gunneradt]

Oh well that's it then, some cricketer tweets something derogatory and you think that's of any importance? You're are a fucking clown.

lots of very similar tweets and press coverage

 

[gunneradt]

cobbles said, "The Government (as duly elected) represent the MAJORITY of the British people."

People didnt elect a coalition or LibDems in ordee from them to regage on promises.

I think you've invented a word - it'll cost £9k to get that Englsih GCSE

 

[Cobbles]

1. ignored the fact that the EMA is to be scrapped

It was mentioned on the BBC news this morning *yawn* ho hum - another cut that needs to be made - who needs thousands of poly graduates with third class degrees - not McDonalds.

2. Focussed solely on tuition fees and ignored the fact that the protests are about CUTS

It would appear that the "protests" are mainly all about random vandalism.

3. Ignored police aggression and laid the blame on protesters.

The police only react to random thuggish violence - they deal with "protestors" in the same way that they deal with any mob full of yobs such as football hooligans. No matter how much training they get, it must be difficult for them to react in any way other than as a human being when they're confronted with a pack of braying lunatics who've just trashed a building that we (sorry - some of us) pay for through our taxes.

4. Failed to question police tactics during the demo

Indeed - where were the water cannon? Where was the CS gas - piss poor performance.

5. 44 protester were injured and 12 coppers. How many of those injured protesters were victims of police violence?

Who cares? - nobody has to stand in front of a police horse or surge towards a building - what's wrong with a proper protest like the Countryside Alliance managed?

6. Students who are interviewed in the studio are always asked "do you condone the violence"? It's an invitation to provocation.

Why? - the only possible answer is no. How is that provocation?

What should they ask them - "Well, next time you organise a hissy fit, which areas do you intend to vandalise?"

 

[Flanflinger]

I know this is an old post, but if you're going to use it only for posting rather than reading, you don't even need internet access - you can text your tweets in for the price of a normal text.

And bump up the profits of the capitalist pigs........ROFLMAO.

 

[Crispy]

what's wrong with a proper protest like the Countryside Alliance managed?

It achieves fuck all

 

[magneze]

@Cobbles: parody

 

[TopCat]

And bump up the profits of the capitalist pigs........ROFLMAO.

Your not laughing though are you? We are, like hyenas.

 

[Crispy]

@Cobbles: parody

Best way to treat it really

 

[chilango]

Cobbles are you bored or something?

 

[scifisam]

And bump up the profits of the capitalist pigs........ROFLMAO.

I'm sure those 2p texts will send their share prices soaring. Obviously, the alternative solution is not to text - better to not communicate at all!

 

[The Black Hand]

The police were physically defending a decision by the lying dogs sitting in parliament to launch an attack on the poorest in society in order to pay for a crisis caused by the rich and powerful. That decision represents an act of violence against the working class and an assault on the dreams hopes and aspirations of a generation. By acting in defence of those making that decision the police become the enemy and therefore violence against them becomes legitimate and right. This is not a game and calls for the victims of those political attacks to peacefully accept them is a call for us to accept defeat.

2. If the demonstrators had gained access to Parliament they would have physically assaulted those illegitimate MPs and attempted to disrupt the illegitimate decisions they were taking. Why not? They are making decisions about our lives and the future of our children and they have no democratic mandate to do so. In the face of their political unaccountability street violence is the only reply. Not only is it morally justified. It is the only possible response and the only thing that they take seriously.

3. For the above reasons. Yes. When baton wielding thugs, with shields and horses act to defend the undemocratic actions of my enemies inside the HOP then they become my enemy.

Hope this answered your questions

Good

 

[scifisam]

Cobbles are you bored or something?

He's a particularly vile troll. I'm really not sure why anyone bothers responding to him.

 

[chilango]

He's a particularly crap troll. Doesn't even rile anyone up properly. Too obvious.

Cobbles, seriously, go have some real fun somewhere. It's a bit sad.

 

[The Black Hand]

Crimble No 1 for Kaiser Chiefs?

 

[nino_savatte]

It was mentioned on the BBC news this morning *yawn* ho hum - another cut that needs to be made - who needs thousands of poly graduates with third class degrees - not McDonalds.



It would appear that the "protests" are mainly all about random vandalism.



The police only react to random thuggish violence - they deal with "protestors" in the same way that they deal with any mob full of yobs such as football hooligans. No matter how much training they get, it must be difficult for them to react in any way other than as a human being when they're confronted with a pack of braying lunatics who've just trashed a building that we (sorry - some of us) pay for through our taxes.




Indeed - where were the water cannon? Where was the CS gas - piss poor performance.



Who cares? - nobody has to stand in front of a police horse or surge towards a building - what's wrong with a proper protest like the Countryside Alliance managed?



Why? - the only possible answer is no. How is that provocation?

What should they ask them - "Well, next time you organise a hissy fit, which areas do you intend to vandalise?"

Ah, the party line. There's so much wrong with this post that I scarcely know where to begin. However as i am short of time, I will deal with this woefully ignorant statement.

Who cares? - nobody has to stand in front of a police horse or surge towards a building - what's wrong with a proper protest like the Countryside Alliance managed?

You're having a laugh. Weren't Countryside Alliance protesters attacked by riot cops? You have a very short and selective memory of the event. Such was your haste to pour scorn on yesterdays' demos that you left yourself exposed. Bravo.

 

[nino_savatte]

He's a particularly crap troll. Doesn't even rile anyone up properly. Too obvious.

Cobbles, seriously, go have some real fun somewhere. It's a bit sad.

Innit?

 

[girasol]

Who cares? - nobody has to stand in front of a police horse or surge towards a building - what's wrong with a proper protest like the Countryside Alliance managed?

I don't remember this particular protest, but ask the mainstream media why is that they only give coverage to violent protests and there's your answer...

No one listens to peaceful protest, it doesn't grab headlines. Remember the 1 million people who peacefully marched against the war? Blame the media, not the protesters.

 

[Ms Ordinary]

The copper with white shoulder insignia and stripes on his helmet from 1:10 on looks exceptionally nasty.

The one smashing someone in the kneecaps, when they're already backing off with their hands in the air? (about 1:27?)

 

[nino_savatte]

The people who say "violent protests achieve nothing" would do well to remember the example of the Suffragettes and how they achieved votes for women.

Who says history doesn't matter?

 

[Steel Icarus]

The copper with white shoulder insignia and stripes on his helmet from 1:10 on looks exceptionally nasty.

1.29 - how can that be justified? Fucking pig twat.

 

[The Black Hand]

What we are seeing is finally the arrival of tens of thousands of people who are willing to act together for themselves independently of institutions and the student union which is now virtually irrelevant. Congratulations to those in the thick of things, and the rest of the ‘radicals’/ 'ultra left' were noticeable by their absence, off the pace as usual & completely unable to participate in a movement.

The NUS leader was whining on TV yesterday, recycling the same stale crap that previous student leaders have done on a way to a safe career in the labour party. It wasn’t good enough then and it has no relevance today when people can see the political lying class, and the people who attempt to make student protest irrelevant by turning it into stale old fashioned Labour party views.

Incidentally, that is one reason why the Labour party is dying, they have no answer beyond managerial bureaucracy and the elective cretinism of parliament. Rather the power is on the streets.

That is not to say that there is not more work we need to do. In the North East Newcastle was good yesterday, Sunderland had its first progressive march for 10 years too, and I’m not sure about Durham. everybody is totally motivated by what the students are doing in the new occupation movement and beyond. Power to the people