London Anarchist Bookfair 2023/24

[TopCat]

You give the impression that neither you nor some of the attendees at the Anarchist Bookfair are serious people. I don't fell inclined to attend an event at which it is apparently normal for people to behave in a loutish way.

I care why?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

"Come for the books, stay for the louts." was actually on the poster back in the Conway Hall days.

It was under a Clifford Harper illustration of a raven and the raven had a book in one claw and a half brick in the other.

Probably not his best work tbf.

 

[Pickman's model]

You give the impression that neither you nor some of the attendees at the Anarchist Bookfair are serious people. I don't fell inclined to attend an event at which it is apparently normal for people to behave in a loutish way.

Kropotkin was famous for his loutish behaviour, while bakunin was not a bore but a boor. Malatesta drank merlot, but became manic and not maudlin while Bone becomes brilliant over a beer.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

There's more discussion than I ever remember about things like conflict resolution, transformative justice and accountability within the movement. I agree those debates and processes haven't yet brought about a huge amount of success but the discussions are taking place - and this stuff is really hard, solutions aren't going to appear overnight.

I guess I'm just very wary of a kid's today type analysis. There are problems now, and there were problems then, and some of the problems now might be a consequence of the problems then. As an example we're all looking back and cringing on the Russell Brand threads. The movement was not without those attitudes and certainly in the broader more subcultural scenes that anarchist politics was enmeshed with sexual assaults were swept under the carpet, misogyny, homophobia and transphobia were commonplace, predatory behaviour was overlooked, there was little thought given to the dynamics of race in a movement that was overwhelmingly white. And whilst none of these things are fixed, it's worth considering how much of the rise in identity politics came about as a reaction to some of those problems.

While never particularly liking the ACG banning them from the Bookfair is disgraceful. Thus, talk about debates and processes is evasive BS. End of.

 

[kenny g]

While never particularly liking the ACG banning them from the Bookfair is disgraceful. Thus, talk about debates and processes is evasive BS. End of.

Why don't you like the ACG larry? Always seemed max lovey to my twisted eyes..

 

[PTK]

I would not describe myself as an anarchist.

My question to those who would describe themselves as anarchists is: which is the best anarchist group, and why?

 

[kenny g]

I would not describe myself as an anarchist.

My question to those who would describe themselves as anarchists is: which is the best anarchist group, and why?

My response would be... why should anyone answer?

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Why don't you like the ACG larry? Always seemed max lovey to my twisted eyes..

Boring sectarian humourless intellectually flatlining: but still wouldnt ban them

 

[kenny g]

A real @ would provide a how rather than a ?

 

[kenny g]

Boring sectarian humourless intellectually flatlining: but still wouldnt ban them

Give us a joke then you

intellectual flatliner

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I would not describe myself as an anarchist.

My question to those who would describe themselves as anarchists is: which is the best anarchist group, and why?

The Sex Pistols.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Give us a joke then you

Corporal Klopp complaining about VAR?

 

[Elohim]

The Sex Pistols.

I imagined the sex pistols if they were still together would also be banned from the book fair.

 

[Serge Forward]

Boring sectarian humourless intellectually flatlining: but still wouldnt ban them

You charmer, you.

 

[LDC]

I would not describe myself as an anarchist.

My question to those who would describe themselves as anarchists is: which is the best anarchist group, and why?

Ever? Or now. In the UK or further afield PTK? Needs poll for votes...

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Oh he means organisation? He said group.

 

[Wilf]

I imagined the sex pistols if they were still together would also be banned from the book fair.

Bet they'd leave poor Glen Matlock on the stall all day.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I would not describe myself as an anarchist.

My question to those who would describe themselves as anarchists is: which is the best anarchist group, and why?

We voted on least favourite in 2004, but a lot has happened since then.

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/which-is-your-least-favourite-anarchist-libertarian-independent-group-the-poll.21321/

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

We voted on least favourite in 2004, but a lot has happened since then.

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/which-is-your-least-favourite-anarchist-libertarian-independent-group-the-poll.21321/

Ah, the Wombles. I'd forgotten about them.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

The IWCA aren't/weren't an anarchist group.

E2a: Should have read the title of that thread.

 

[Elohim]

The IWCA aren't/weren't an anarchist group.

E2a: Should have read the title of that thread.

To be fair most anarchist groups are not really anarchist.

 

[Pickman's model]

To be fair most anarchist groups are not really anarchist.

Says the poster who thinks Labour are on the left

 

[Dystopiary]

To be fair most anarchist groups are not really anarchist.

Such as?

 

[PTK]

YMCA was a catchy song, though.

 

[Elohim]

Says the poster who thinks Labour are on the left

I've actually distanced myself from the labour party and unless things change will never vote for them again.

 

[Elohim]

Such as?

One's involved in identity politics .

 

[Pickman's model]

One's involved in identity politics .

which one?

 

[Elohim]

which one?

One's banning other anarchist groups from book fairs for not following rules.

Shock horror anarchist groups banning people for not following rules.

Authoritarianism anarchists

 

[Serge Forward]

One's banning other anarchist groups from book fairs for not following rules.

Shock horror anarchist groups banning people for not following rules.

Authoritarianism anarchists

While you're correct about the ludicrous bookfair people banning the ACG, you seem to be under the misapprehension that anarchists don't follow rules. I suggest you find out a little about what anarchism is, and what it isn't.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Obviously it’s their ball, but it does smack a bit of decisions by centralised committee.