Fez909
toilet expert
Wot, no thread? I did a search.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22537941
What is it with football and rape?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22537941
What is it with football and rape?
Loic Remy arrested on suspicion of gang rape
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Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
mental.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
This is an ongoing case, remember.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
or an ongoing trend perhaps?
#sighs
#sighs
Indeed. More often than not the case against these guys are thrown out of court. A footballer must be thick as fuck to take part in something like that in the first place though. Setting himself up for trouble.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
so you're still talking out your arse then?
Sorry?
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
you fucking should be.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
"more often than not these cases are thrown out of court"
apologist. excuser. denier.
ooooookkkkaaayyyyyyy.....
dick.
deadringer
meat pie sausage roll
Ongoing trend of what?
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
men raping women, often in gangs, sometimes under the guise of some sporting bond.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
i'm sure you don't need me to trawl back through the sordid entrails of recent football history to prove my point? all though, of course, it goes much much wider and deeper than that.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Do you mean allegations of rape of this sort are on an upward trend or proved rapes involving professional footballers are on an upward trend, and in either case it would be nice to see some support for your position if you're not to be viewed as a timewaster
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
I doubt it is more of an issue amongst footballers than any other section of society it's just that they receive more media coverage
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Is it true they are more often than not thrown out of court?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
should be your new tagline
Fez909
toilet expert
You may have noticed the forum name. It is "news and current affairs". This comes under both of those categories. You'll also note that there is no mention of any charges in the article. This means that there is no trial, and we're free to talk about whatever we want (subject to the normal rules about defamation, libel and whatnot).
If you don't like it, put the thread on ignore.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I'm not sure it's purely a football-related phenomenon. It's more of a "pack mentality"-related problem that patriarchy facilitates. That we hear about footballers doing it may be merely a function of the "celebrity", whereas we don't tend to hear about the classmates who do it or the workmates who do it to quite such an extent.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
While gabi's language is, as ever, terse to the point of nonsense, his point has more than one context. besides a context of denial is a context of realism - rape cases are often "thrown out" for procedural reasons (for example the CPS having a change of heart about whether the evidence suits their cost/benefit analysis in prosecuting the case).
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
More often than not, they don't make it as far as court, but of those that do, about 25% are discontinued for procedural reasons.
It's not "more often than not", but added to the cases that don't meet the CPS standards for taking forward a proscecution, then a majority of reported cases don't end up being prosecuted. Sometimes they don't even lie on file.
You may be free to talk about it legally, subject to the restrictions that you mention (and which some of the posts on this thread may well infringe already), but it doesn't mean to say that I have to like the fact that you're doing so or refrain from commenting about the fact that you do so. Some of the posts on here are already making assumptions, express or implied, about the guilt of the alleged perpetrator or the veracity of the alleged victim. I detest those who start presuming to comment on the merits of criminal allegations without knowing jack-shit about the facts of the case or the evidence.
Fez909
toilet expert
That's fair enough, but don't blame me for that. There's nothing in the OP which either assumes guilt or any of the other things you mention.
GarveyLives
Well-Known Member
Given the allegations made against Mr Rémy, perhaps these articles should also be added to the thread:
14 February 2014: Loïc Rémy to face no further action over rape allegations
12 March 2014: Premier League star Loïc Rémy on gang rape allegations: 'Girls can be greedy and vicious
Fez909
toilet expert
Fair enough.
Why now, btw? This is such an old thread. I don't even remember posting it.
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