Can someone explain it?
Libertarians
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wayward bob
i ate all your bees
i hate them 
with their glasses and their date stamps. fascists the lot of them 
with their glasses and their date stamps. fascists the lot of them DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
any attempt at a social structure is basically evil.
That's the thing. I love Doug Stanhope and cynicism in general, but generally if someone says they are libertarian I'm like 'fuck them'. People also say South Park is libertarian and I love that as well
I just don't understand, is it just a word for anarchist that is more acceptable?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Or the Tea Party, perhaps.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
some confusion with trans atlantic political definitions here. Anarchists would describe themselves as libertarian socialists (i think) whereas a US libertarian views socialism the way you and me view peadophilia.
Tea Party was Christian though
They might have had a point if they weren't Christian
They might have had a point if they weren't Christian
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Randism is libertarian too. I think that maybe some people associate libertarianism with a bent for individual "fuck you jack, I'm all right" politics and some libertarian politics and the people that subscribe to it reflect that e.g. the Tea Party.
It's always the 'being held back' that annoys me. As if the cunning people don't thrive under any system
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
anarchists with a mortgage
The term is a synonym for Anarchism except in the US where they've hi-jacked the term recently to refer to right wing loonery.The root word is libertaire and was coined in 1857 by Dejacque.Even in the US in the fifties there were groups who were actually libertarian as opposed to the hi-jacked "Libertarian" wing nuts.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
all proper tea party is theft
TruXta
tired
Unless it's to do with me owning property that you trespass on and then I shoot you in the head. That arrangement is just fine.
TruXta
tired
Didn't Murray Rothbard gloat quite openly about hijacking the term from what most Europeans would recognize as anarchist groups? Could swear I read something to that effect not long ago.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
they can have that word, I reckon. No sense reclaiming it for proper liberty. Liberty for the bosses, no thanks wankers
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
They can have that word in the English-speaking world, you mean?
inflatable jesus
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
It seems to be gaining a fair bit of traction into mainstream Republican politics these days. Romney's VP pick Paul Ryan is probably the highest profile guy who seems to buy into the libertarian approach when it comes to economic matters. Or I suppose the Hayekian approach might be a bit more accurate.
There's very few Republicans these days that don't at least pay some lip service to libertarian economic philosophy. Most fall well short of actually trying to implement it though.
In fairness to the libertarian party they at least try to be consistent and were virtually the only republicans criticizing the Bush wars. They saw them as wasteful government spending with no clear benefit to the taxpayers who funded them.
There's very few Republicans these days that don't at least pay some lip service to libertarian economic philosophy. Most fall well short of actually trying to implement it though.
In fairness to the libertarian party they at least try to be consistent and were virtually the only republicans criticizing the Bush wars. They saw them as wasteful government spending with no clear benefit to the taxpayers who funded them.
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
My opinion is that America is primarily responsible for the production of Libertardianism because only there do you have such an ignorance of history, and such a disconnection from identity and the concept of society itself, that to them it probably actually does make some sort of sense. I mean, Native Americans and the people dragged there against their will aside, Americas founding principal was all about rugged anti-social types kicked out of Europe for being too religiously nutty and extreme heading off to the frontier where they would be left alone to shag their cousins in peace, without interference from a distant an alien government based in a capital almost invariably half-a-continent or more away. Over the years of course the 'American Spirit' has evolved from anti-social bible-thumping maverick into the consolidation-phase self-absorbed twat who essentially hates humanity.
Libertarians are big fans of the gold-standard, this is because they can't stand the idea that as the African word 'Ubuntu' describes, we are what we are because of other people. Most people realize that 'value' comes from human beings, Libertarians hate this idea, they want 'value' to come from dead lumps of shinny shinny yellow metal. To your average Libertwatertard things like Healthcare, Social Welfare, Education, Industrial Safetery Standards and Labour Rights... all are Stalinistic Tyranny. This is because the pseudo-autism of the Libertard knows no bounds. I could rant and rave long into the night but I think I'll stop here.
SpineyNorman
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The first paragraph is nutty as squirrel shit. Verging on bigotry.
Agree with the second one though (not sure I'd use the term "pseudo-autism" mind).
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
Yes, suspected feeling nutty and irate at the time actually.
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
I've lately come to believe that Libertarianism is kind of like a new Back-to-Nature movement. If we all just throw off our clothes and roam naked under the stars then a kind of economically optimal utopia will emerge, and usher in the dawn of New Libertarian Man.
Nature (the unbridled market) left to it's own devices, will provide for all (Left-Libertarianism) except the Unworthy, who shall be trampled underfoot, but that's ok because the Strong should not be burdened by the Unfit (Right-Libertarianism).
Nature (the unbridled market) left to it's own devices, will provide for all (Left-Libertarianism) except the Unworthy, who shall be trampled underfoot, but that's ok because the Strong should not be burdened by the Unfit (Right-Libertarianism).
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
That in his hand? thats his new brand of beer thats going for a tenner fourpack
its called 'Believe' and is a citrus fruit beer. Yes he really is that much of a wanker
its called 'Believe' and is a citrus fruit beer. Yes he really is that much of a wanker
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
This lot call themselves libertarian but they're more fascist than libertarian... but then the Italian futurists called themselves "anarchists", so...
http://www.tfa.net/about-us/meet-the-team/
http://www.tfa.net/about-us/meet-the-team/
