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Lib Dem Polls - How Low Can They Go?

A bill is being pushed through to allow the counting to start earlier than before. I'll find a link in the morning, but it's a real thing. I think that a few steps that had to take place before the counts proceeded will no longer have to.
 
it's a bit dull between polls closing and Sunderland declaring as it is, I've no objection to the results starting earlier - I can't imagine they'll be able to speed it up that much, mind. You'll still get your allnighter.
 
Constituency polls don't always follow national polling though - these figures are pretty much the same as the Oakeshott poll found in the seat last year - that had lab/lib-dem 33/22 -this one has 33/23. The Ashcroft did a poll at the end of last year which was 31/28 to Lib-dems - and they all had the tories around 20%. So that's all three suggesting Clegg is in trouble.
yeah, but the Oakeshott poll reverted to the expected result once previous voting etc had been taken into account - this poll has no such adjustments. I'd like to believe it, but it's wrong. There is no way the Libs will fall that low, sadly. Don't forget that ten years ago this constituency was supposedly the wealthiest in Britain! The liberal voters are largely wet tories, they want conservatism with a nice face - exactly what Clegg gives them.

Labour could, amazingly, win the seat, but not by 10%. My prediction is that it will be 35-33 either way, with the tories on 20, UKIP 7/8, Greens 2/3 and everyone else on 1.
 
ICM reallocated 50% of the DKs to 2010 voting - which is always going to favour an incumbent, esp one with such a large previous lead - but it can also be a deadly mask when a vote is in the process of collapsing.
 
Earlier this week it came to light that a poll I published last November in Sheffield Hallam included a mistake in the data. Concerned that this may not have been an isolated incident, I reviewed two other polls I commissioned from the same company at the same time. As I feared, the mistakes had been repeated.

The data has now been corrected, and the upshot is that in Sheffield Hallam, rather than having a three-point lead Nick Clegg should have been three points behind Labour:

LAB 30%, LDEM 27%, CON 19%, UKIP 13%, GRN 10%.

In Thanet South, rather than a five-point Conservative lead, the poll should have shown a very tight race with UKIP’s Nigel Farage:

CON 33%, UKIP 32%, LAB 26%, LIB DEM 4%, GRN 3%

And in Doncaster North Ed Miliband is a full thirty points clear of his nearest challenger:



LAB 55%, UKIP 25%, CON 13%, LIB DEM 4%, GRN 2%.

The results have been updated on the Constituency Polls section of my website, and the corrected data tables for Hallam, Thanet and Doncaster are also on my site.

...

So I must disclose that these three surveys last November are the first and only I have commissioned from a well-known but relatively new polling firm. And no, I won’t be using them again.
 
Ha Ha
The latest Ipsos Mori political monitor, released Thursday, has the Liberal Democrats on 6%. The party’s lowest score in 25 years. As context, in 1990, West Germany won the World Cup, and Roxette’s “It Must Have Been Love” topped the charts.

What makes the figures even more extraordinary is that the Lib Dems are now tied with the SNP, which of course only runs in Scotland.
 
I wonder what's the lowest number of seats we could realistically hope for them to have after May is. Maybe 30?. They've 43 English Seats, so if they lose all their Welsh seats and all the Scottish bar Orkney and Shetland (which doesn't look that unlikely) they're already down to 44.
 
I wonder what's the lowest number of seats we could realistically hope for them to have after May is. Maybe 30?. They've 43 English Seats, so if they lose all their Welsh seats and all the Scottish bar Orkney and Shetland (which doesn't look that unlikely) they're already down to 44.
Low to mid 20s is plausible, tho I suspect they'll be pushing thirty in reality.
 
That's Specijal European Comissioner Clegg to you!

(he'll be hived off to a euro job, imo)

...then cut loose when Britain votes to leave the EU twelve months later :D

(No, I don't think that's a likely outcome, but the opportunity to sack Clegg twice could happen)
 
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