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Legalising Brothels

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Did anybody see the C4 prog last night on Hampshire Womens Institute (7k members) and their campaign to help prostitutes health and safety?

I thought it was brilliant, and it put the left and anarchists to shame with their 'fiddling while Rome burns'.

Great idea for a publicity action to increase the chances of succes (a mobile brothel is probably LEGAL in the UK) and great political practice. SO much so, that I have already thought about opening Durhams first Mobile Brothel:hmm::D
 
It was good wasn't it! :D

No-one else would've got away with it like the WI, they're the pillars of communities or something, and generally thought of as prudes I suppose.

The New Zealand brothel looked perfect for Wi members! Did you notice one of the workers in the NZ one was English? :)
 
I liked when one of the WI ladies said they'd try the upside down blowjob when they got home :D

I thought it was a good programme but unfortunately didn't see all of it. I definately think brothels should be legalised.
 
I don't think prostitutes should be prosecuted, but I don't think it should be legal to buy sex off them as it encourages an industry which is essentially oppressive to women
 
CyberRose said:
I don't think prostitutes should be prosecuted, but I don't think it should be legal to buy sex off them as it encourages an industry which is essentially oppressive to women
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But it's always going to exist. Isn't it better to legislate prostitution and offer the women some rights as workers / decent medical assistance etc?
 
didnt see all of it, but it struck me that they hadn't understood the difference between street sex workers and off-street sex workers (escorts/bothels) - that the former are virtually all heavily damaged crack and H users. no brothel owner in their right mind would run a brothel full of staff who use heroin and crack. the equivalent of legal brothels for street sex workers would be legal crack houses.
 
CyberRose said:
I don't think prostitutes should be prosecuted, but I don't think it should be legal to buy sex off them as it encourages an industry which is essentially oppressive to women
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That's a black and white way of looking at prostitution, there are plenty of male prostitues too.

I don't agree it's always oppressive to women, why is it always?

If prostitution wasn't run by (male) pimps would you still feel the same? :)
 
NVP said:
But it's always going to exist. Isn't it better to legislate prostitution and offer the women some rights as workers / decent medical assistance etc?
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It will always exist but legalising the buying of sex would give the impression that it's ok, and I don't think it is. I would also predict it will encourage a growth in people trafficking. It would also be under the assumption that prostitutes working in these brothels would feel any safer complaining about a bad employer than they do now. I think the ownership of such institutions would remain in the hands of the pimps, so would giving them extra rights really make any difference to their situation?
 
zenie said:
That's a black and white way of looking at prostitution, there are plenty of male prostitues too.
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Of course, but I would say the majority of prostitutes are women. It is still oppressive to male prostitutes as well tho

I don't agree it's always oppressive to women, why is it always?
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It's not always oppressive, there was that documentary where Billy Piper went under cover as a prostitute and it was actually a really really good job to do!

But seriously, as much as Billy Piper prostitutes exist, I would say the vast majority are nothing like those conditions...

If prostitution wasn't run by (male) pimps would you still feel the same? :)
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It would depend how much of a say over their chosen profession prostitutes really have
 
Billy Piper didn't go 'undercover' - she played a part in a mediocre ITV drama where prostitution was glamourised for the titillation of the audience.

As regards legalising prostitution, gotta be done, dawgs.
 
NVP said:
But it's always going to exist. Isn't it better to legislate prostitution and offer the women some rights as workers / decent medical assistance etc?
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Even (whisper it) a union? If there will always be prostitution (not really an if) then better the profits should go to the workers themselves rather than to pimps and drug dealers; legal and regulated brothels are probably the only way to achieve this.
 
fucking shit programme that served mainly to laugh at 'funny old women going round talking about sex.' That journalist was bloody awful and should never be allowed near a camera again. A great shame as the issue is obviously massively important, and legalised SOO brothels is most likely the way to go
 
If the Hampshire WI are happy for brothels to be legalised, I wonder how happy they would be for their daughters to work in them and their husbands to patronise them?
 
untethered said:
If the Hampshire WI are happy for brothels to be legalised, I wonder how happy they would be for their daughters to work in them and their husbands to patronise them?
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Good point about the middle class liberals for legalisation. I wonder how many of them would be cool with their daughter, or sister or mother etc working in the sex industry or whether to them it's just a profession for "other people" i.e poor people who've had a shit life and probably couldn't make something else of themselves anyway.
 
CyberRose said:
It will always exist but legalising the buying of sex would give the impression that it's ok, and I don't think it is. I would also predict it will encourage a growth in people trafficking.
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That sounds like the kind of arguments from the swedish femnazis which is sadly being copied by idiot politicians here.
 
I saw that programme. It was brilliant .... the old dears looking around at the sex toys and lube was hilarious. It reminded me of the late, lamented Ban This Filth.

But there was a serious point behind it all and I hope that they actually achieve the decriminalisation of sex workers that they are seeking .... it would do a great deal more for sex worker's than Hattie Harman's idiotic notion that you can ban men from being horny. :rolleyes:
 
The Coalition Against Trafficking of Women don't want prostitution to be legalised, as do many other women's rights organisations. The article above from the Guardian is a pretty good argument why. The CATW have produced a number of articles on the subject of legalising prostitution, one of which contains 10 reasons why it would be a bad idea:

1. Legalization/decriminalization of prostitution is a gift to pimps, traffickers and the sex industry.

2. Legalization/decriminalization of prostitution and the sex industry promotes sex trafficking.

3.Legalization/decriminalization of prostitution does not control the sex industry. It expands it.

4. Legalization/decriminalizaton of prostitution increases clandestine, illegal and street prostitution.

5. Legalization of prostitution and decriminalization of the sex industry increases child prostitution.

6. Legalization/decriminalization of prostitution does not protect the women in prostitution.

7. Legalization/decriminalization of prostitution increases the demand for prostitution. It encourages men to buy women for sex in a wider and more permissible range of socially acceptable settings.

8. Legalization/decriminalization of prostitution does not promote women’s health.

9. Legalization/decriminalization of prostitution does not enhance women’s choice.

10. Women in systems of prostitution do not want the sex industry legalized or decriminalized.
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That article, and some of the others, can be found here: http://action.web.ca/home/catw/readingroom.shtml?x=81465
 
Jeff Robinson said:
Good point about the middle class liberals for legalisation. I wonder how many of them would be cool with their daughter, or sister or mother etc working in the sex industry or whether to them it's just a profession for "other people" i.e poor people who've had a shit life and probably couldn't make something else of themselves anyway.
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gawd...no one did, or would, argue that sex work is a 'cool place to work' - but it exists, and pretending it doesn't do doesn't work, as doesn't criminalising the men that pay for it.
 
CyberRose said:
The Coalition Against Trafficking of Women don't want prostitution to be legalised, as do many other women's rights organisations. The article above from the Guardian is a pretty good argument why. The CATW have produced a number of articles on the subject of legalising prostitution, one of which contains 10 reasons why it would be a bad idea:



That article, and some of the others, can be found here: http://action.web.ca/home/catw/readingroom.shtml?x=81465
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I'd be very interested to know if there stats were researched before the New Zealand model was established, as that seems a far more useful model than the other versions looked at, particularly better than the dutch 'shop window' version
 
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