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Lambeth's plans to demolish Cressingham Gardens and other estates without the consent of residents

Parkside? Nothing too amiss on Tulse Hill.
It happens every week or so. The laminated pages get tampered with too (the fixing holes are cut, and pages removed). Hence the use of cheap materials where possible - tarps and cotton are expensive to replace.

It's not the wind and/or rain; they can neither cut, nor read. Nor can it be somebody who loves the park or this estate (or is paid to look after them), or the tape and cable ties would have been removed at the same time.
 
Another letter from Cllr Bennett to the residents, asking once again for their opinion. But that's only their opinion if it fits in with the ever-narrowing option of ideas that he is prepared to consider.

Plus the Lambeth Labour website is just BONKERS.

BBuzz piece.
 
Another letter from Cllr Bennett to the residents, asking once again for their opinion. But that's only their opinion if it fits in with the ever-narrowing option of ideas that he is prepared to consider.<snip>

BBuzz piece.
Wow, that was quick! I haven't checked LL's website at all, I'll save that for my next teabreak.
 
LL's angle on Natalie Bennett not visiting the estate (although her deputy and other Green party members still visited here yesterday, and their party leader had a valid excuse - a lost voice). Tricky Skills understated it, if anything:
""Posted by LAMBETH LABOUR 5pc on April 27, 2015
Lambeth Labour welcome Green Leader's housing u-turn

Leader of Lambeth Council, Cllr Lib Peck, has welcomed Natalie Bennett's decision to cancel today's planned visit to the Cressingham Gardens estate and called on the Green Party Leader to stop playing politics with the future of the estate.

Cllr Peck said the Green Party should acknowledge that Lambeth’s plans will lead to an increase in social housing on Cressingham and that nobody will be moved - all tenants and leaseholders will be given the right to stay. She also pointed out the estate will remain under council control and, despite Green rhetoric about "social cleansing", new homes would be offered to local people first.

Cllr Peck said:

“I’m pleased Natalie Bennett has called off her visit to Cressingham Gardens. While she’s busy playing party politics, we’re getting on with more important job of delivering better and more social homes for people in Lambeth.

"Natalie Bennett uses offensive language like “social cleansing” to whip up fear, but we are building more social homes to make sure Lambeth keeps its mixed communities. We’re also guaranteeing all tenants and leaseholders the right to stay.""

"Residents need a voice who will make sure they can remain part of the community and live in modern, affordable housing. Yet Lambeth Greens consistently oppose all attempts to build new social housing in Lambeth."

NOTES

We are improving existing council homes with a £490m programme of investment to bring all council homes up to the Lambeth Housing Standard, despite a 60% reduction in government grant in 2010.
No one is being moved off the estate – all tenants and leaseholders will be able to stay.
All new homes will be offered to local people first.
The estate will remain under council control.
In Lambeth we are serious about building 1,000 new council homes over the next four years to address the housing crisis London faces. Currently Lambeth has 21,000 people on our waiting list for social housing.
That means using the land we own to build more homes and working with our council tenants and leaseholders to redesign estates such as Cressingham Gardens.
We want to improve existing council homes and to build more social rented properties.""
:rolleyes:
 
Has everyone seen Chuka's Facebook post from yesterday?

"I have lived in Lambeth all my life and used to visit the Cressingham Gardens estate area to see childhood friends back in the day. I have visited the estate many times before and after being elected MP for the constituency.

It was whilst visiting the estate shortly before the last election that it became obvious to me just how poor a state some of the properties were in and that major work was unavoidable if we were to bring all properties up to a Decent Homes standard so they are comfortable, safe and warm. That work would undoubtedly cause stress and disruption to some residents.

Lambeth Council rightly aims to achieve that Decent Homes standard across the borough. With that in mind and given it has had its budget cut by more than half by the Tory/LibDem Coalition Government, the Labour run Council has sought to work out what to do.

A consultation was carried out last year and a range of options were presented to residents on the estate. There were a number of deficiencies with the consultation which I took up with the Council. One option presented to residents – of simply refurbishing and renovating existing homes on the estate - with hindsight was clearly not going achievable, nor would it have been an equitable use of social housing funds across the borough. But the Council's motivation - ensuring decent homes for people on the estate - is something I wholeheartedly support.

The Council also want to deliver extra council housing, given our need for new council housing is so acute. There are more than 20,000 households on Lambeth’s waiting list, and we need to build more housing not just protect existing stock. So the Council not only seeks to ensure there are the same number of council homes on the Cressingham Gardens estate after any redevelopment but it wants to build more council homes on the estate too.

One of the challenges the Council has is that Lambeth is very densely populated and there is little brownfield land to build more council homes on, so it has chosen to build more homes on existing estates – good for Lambeth as a whole but less welcome for some of the leaseholders who live on the estates affected .The Guardian’s Dave Hill gives a fair assessment of this and the varying points of view about this redevelopment on his excellently researched blog here: http://www.theguardian.com/…/a-time-for-trust-at-the-cressi….

There are a range of views on the proposed redevelopment of the estate - there is no consensus among residents. I have had some tell me that they want the whole estate to be knocked down and rebuilt, some support the partial redevelopment, others insist that all homes be refurbished/renovated. Many Leaseholders and landlords on the estate understandably want renovation but many tenants support partial or whole redevelopment of the estate. The Save Cressingham Gardens campaign, which speaks for some but does not speak for a significant number of residents - and has endorsed the Green Party (I will return to that below) in the General Election - wants the renovation/refurbishment of all homes.

For my own part, I oppose knocking down the whole estate and starting again, but I do not oppose redeveloping part of the estate. As the local MP, I have had intensive discussions and made many representations to the council both on the consultation process and the proposals themselves. I have held a coffee afternoon on the estate to take views on the issue and have had a lot of correspondence with residents on the estate on the proposed plans.

I subsequently set out four criteria to be met - they are my red lines. These are that: every single home on Cressingham Gardens must meet the Decent Home Standards; the estate must have the same number or a greater number of council homes (that means real council homes, not simply ‘affordable’ homes); tenants should be offered a new tenancy on a new or refurbished property on the estate; because leaseholders might view options such as shared ownership as a step back, they should be offered something more than this if they wish to remain on the estate; and, if any leaseholders choose to sell their properties rather than remain on the estate, they must be treated fairly.

Because the option of renovating homes on the estate without also redeveloping part of the estate cannot be delivered, some redevelopment will have to take place. This means new council housing can be built as part of Lambeth’s target to build 1000 extra council homes.

A plan that redevelops the estate following the above criteria will deliver better housing for council tenants, more council housing for people in our area who need it, and will be fair to leaseholders – around 14 of whom might be affected by partial redevelopment – who should be treated fairly. This is my clear view of the situation.
Last week, I spoke of the need for a Labour government at the Evening Standard’s London Hustings. I was opposed by Grant Shapps, Mark Reckless, Lynne Featherstone and Natalie Bennett, the leader of the Green Party. One of her supporters from the Save Cressingham Gardens campaign asked for the panel's views on social housing in London, referring to the situation on Cressingham.

Ms Bennett visited the estate last year as part of her party's election campaigning. I do not recall the Green Party expressing any interest in Cressingham Gardens until when the Save Cressingham Gardens campaign was established in the last two years. They were certainly nowhere to be seen on the estate at the last election and, yet, as the local elections in 2014 and General Election this year honed into view, they have taken an ever increasing interest in the estate. In so doing, they have shamelessly and disgracefully sought to use the future of an estate for party political purposes - they have used what should not be a party political matter to bash the Labour Council.

At the Evening Standard hustings,in her answer to the question her supporter put to us Ms Bennett even branded what the Council are doing on Cressingham as social "cleansing" . We have many survivors living in Lambeth who have fled cleansing around the world - they will take grave offence at the use of such language in a situation such as this given their own harrowing experiences of "cleansing". It is correct to say that there is a housing crisis in our area, but action is required from political parties to fix it, not throwing around irresponsible language and undeliverable promises in a General Election campaign.

Natalie Bennett’s party has opposed every single project that will increase council housing in our borough. The Green Party claims it wants to build more homes but, as Ms Bennett's recent interview on LBC illustrated, they have no idea how much their plans to build more homes will cost or where they will get the money from: http://www.lbc.co.uk/incredibly-awkward-interview-with-nata… .

And, even if their sums did add up, they have not said where they could be built in Lambeth. Instead all we have seen is grandstanding and party political point scoring of the highest order - causing even more worry and stress for people who live here - which will not deliver one extra council home in our area.
It is also wholly unacceptable that some of those associating themselves with the Save Cressingham Gardens campaign - which now works closely with Lambeth Green Party - have made threats to a local councillor in the ward where Cressingham is located. This has been reported to and is now being investigated by the police.

There is clearly a lot of anti-politics sentiment that we all need to address and, yes, the failure of the political system to deliver more affordable homes understandably has helped fuel this. But the answer to anti-politics is grown up politics not cynical and irresponsible politics that seeks to take advantage of the very real and complex problems in one of the most deprived local council wards in the country. - C."

https://www.facebook.com/ChukaUmunnaMP/posts/10153259886394709
 
Has everyone seen Chuka's Facebook post from yesterday?

"I have lived in Lambeth all my life and used to visit the Cressingham Gardens estate area to see childhood friends back in the day. I have visited the estate many times before and after being elected MP for the constituency.

It was whilst visiting the estate shortly before the last election that it became obvious to me just how poor a state some of the properties were in and that major work was unavoidable if we were to bring all properties up to a Decent Homes standard so they are comfortable, safe and warm. That work would undoubtedly cause stress and disruption to some residents.

Lambeth Council rightly aims to achieve that Decent Homes standard across the borough. With that in mind and given it has had its budget cut by more than half by the Tory/LibDem Coalition Government, the Labour run Council has sought to work out what to do.

A consultation was carried out last year and a range of options were presented to residents on the estate. There were a number of deficiencies with the consultation which I took up with the Council. One option presented to residents – of simply refurbishing and renovating existing homes on the estate - with hindsight was clearly not going achievable, nor would it have been an equitable use of social housing funds across the borough. But the Council's motivation - ensuring decent homes for people on the estate - is something I wholeheartedly support.

The Council also want to deliver extra council housing, given our need for new council housing is so acute. There are more than 20,000 households on Lambeth’s waiting list, and we need to build more housing not just protect existing stock. So the Council not only seeks to ensure there are the same number of council homes on the Cressingham Gardens estate after any redevelopment but it wants to build more council homes on the estate too.

One of the challenges the Council has is that Lambeth is very densely populated and there is little brownfield land to build more council homes on, so it has chosen to build more homes on existing estates – good for Lambeth as a whole but less welcome for some of the leaseholders who live on the estates affected .The Guardian’s Dave Hill gives a fair assessment of this and the varying points of view about this redevelopment on his excellently researched blog here: http://www.theguardian.com/…/a-time-for-trust-at-the-cressi….

There are a range of views on the proposed redevelopment of the estate - there is no consensus among residents. I have had some tell me that they want the whole estate to be knocked down and rebuilt, some support the partial redevelopment, others insist that all homes be refurbished/renovated. Many Leaseholders and landlords on the estate understandably want renovation but many tenants support partial or whole redevelopment of the estate. The Save Cressingham Gardens campaign, which speaks for some but does not speak for a significant number of residents - and has endorsed the Green Party (I will return to that below) in the General Election - wants the renovation/refurbishment of all homes.

For my own part, I oppose knocking down the whole estate and starting again, but I do not oppose redeveloping part of the estate. As the local MP, I have had intensive discussions and made many representations to the council both on the consultation process and the proposals themselves. I have held a coffee afternoon on the estate to take views on the issue and have had a lot of correspondence with residents on the estate on the proposed plans.

I subsequently set out four criteria to be met - they are my red lines. These are that: every single home on Cressingham Gardens must meet the Decent Home Standards; the estate must have the same number or a greater number of council homes (that means real council homes, not simply ‘affordable’ homes); tenants should be offered a new tenancy on a new or refurbished property on the estate; because leaseholders might view options such as shared ownership as a step back, they should be offered something more than this if they wish to remain on the estate; and, if any leaseholders choose to sell their properties rather than remain on the estate, they must be treated fairly.

Because the option of renovating homes on the estate without also redeveloping part of the estate cannot be delivered, some redevelopment will have to take place. This means new council housing can be built as part of Lambeth’s target to build 1000 extra council homes.

A plan that redevelops the estate following the above criteria will deliver better housing for council tenants, more council housing for people in our area who need it, and will be fair to leaseholders – around 14 of whom might be affected by partial redevelopment – who should be treated fairly. This is my clear view of the situation.
Last week, I spoke of the need for a Labour government at the Evening Standard’s London Hustings. I was opposed by Grant Shapps, Mark Reckless, Lynne Featherstone and Natalie Bennett, the leader of the Green Party. One of her supporters from the Save Cressingham Gardens campaign asked for the panel's views on social housing in London, referring to the situation on Cressingham.

Ms Bennett visited the estate last year as part of her party's election campaigning. I do not recall the Green Party expressing any interest in Cressingham Gardens until when the Save Cressingham Gardens campaign was established in the last two years. They were certainly nowhere to be seen on the estate at the last election and, yet, as the local elections in 2014 and General Election this year honed into view, they have taken an ever increasing interest in the estate. In so doing, they have shamelessly and disgracefully sought to use the future of an estate for party political purposes - they have used what should not be a party political matter to bash the Labour Council.

At the Evening Standard hustings,in her answer to the question her supporter put to us Ms Bennett even branded what the Council are doing on Cressingham as social "cleansing" . We have many survivors living in Lambeth who have fled cleansing around the world - they will take grave offence at the use of such language in a situation such as this given their own harrowing experiences of "cleansing". It is correct to say that there is a housing crisis in our area, but action is required from political parties to fix it, not throwing around irresponsible language and undeliverable promises in a General Election campaign.

Natalie Bennett’s party has opposed every single project that will increase council housing in our borough. The Green Party claims it wants to build more homes but, as Ms Bennett's recent interview on LBC illustrated, they have no idea how much their plans to build more homes will cost or where they will get the money from: http://www.lbc.co.uk/incredibly-awkward-interview-with-nata… .

And, even if their sums did add up, they have not said where they could be built in Lambeth. Instead all we have seen is grandstanding and party political point scoring of the highest order - causing even more worry and stress for people who live here - which will not deliver one extra council home in our area.
It is also wholly unacceptable that some of those associating themselves with the Save Cressingham Gardens campaign - which now works closely with Lambeth Green Party - have made threats to a local councillor in the ward where Cressingham is located. This has been reported to and is now being investigated by the police.

There is clearly a lot of anti-politics sentiment that we all need to address and, yes, the failure of the political system to deliver more affordable homes understandably has helped fuel this. But the answer to anti-politics is grown up politics not cynical and irresponsible politics that seeks to take advantage of the very real and complex problems in one of the most deprived local council wards in the country. - C."

https://www.facebook.com/ChukaUmunnaMP/posts/10153259886394709

Really quite a childish and immature response, let alone it showing up his lack of knowledge around the detail.
 
Dear Chuka,
If the council would have fulfilled its obligations regarding maintenance as landlord to a standard as required, then this discussion would not be taking place.
On another note, on a patch of land nearby, kindly recall for yourself the sordid details of the sell off of council land (Dick Shepherd School) to private interests for the purpose of building luxury flats. I believe the sum involved was around the £10m mark.
You'll most certainly not be getting my vote.
 
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Dear Chuka,
If the council would have fulfilled its obligations regarding maintenance as landlord to a standard as required, then this discussion would not be taking place.
On another note, on a patch of land nearby, kindly recall for yourself the sordid details of the sell off of council land (Dick Shepherd School) to private interests for the purpose of building luxury flats. I believe the sum involved was around the £10m mark.
You'll most certainly not be getting my vote.

Although to be brutally fair, the Dick Shepherd farrago/misuse of public assets (remember the nearly half a million pounds intended to replace the youth program run out of Dick Shepherd that went "walkies" until public uproar got so loud that the council suddenly "found" the money again?) wasn't on Umunna's watch, it happened during Keith "the teeth" Hill's incumbency as Streatham MP.
 
It seems like someone is scrubbing the comments from below his FB statement... obviously making him and/or his team uncomfortable
If the poor lamb and his acolytes didn't want negative responses, perhaps he would have done well to think before smearing and insulting at least one entire housing estate.
 

Whoever is doing that is either politically-motivated (so, any of our local councillors or their constituency Labour Party cronies), is acting out of some kind of perverse desire to propagate Lambeth Council's side of the "regeneration argument" or (given that the posters have been slashed away from the fastenings with a knife) has an unstoppable yen to carve up anything that offends their delicate sensibilities.
Whichever of the above they are, what they also are is an arsehole.
 
Why not put them up on posts within your estate on your estates property?

Couple of old broom handles or something longer should do?

You are putting up things on public railings in an area which you might not be allowed to do. Some poor sod who might not like it is now tasked with removing them?

Parks have far far far different bye laws than the surrounding areas which are also enforced by different people.

You may be fighting the good fight but you also be causing somebody grief who has no option to do this!
 
Why not put them up on posts within your estate on your estates property?

Couple of old broom handles or something longer should do?

You are putting up things on public railings in an area which you might not be allowed to do. Some poor sod who might not like it is now tasked with removing them?

Parks have far far far different bye laws than the surrounding areas which are also enforced by different people.

You may be fighting the good fight but you also be causing somebody grief who has no option to do this!

We know it's not the Park Wardens - they actually support us. We know it's not the estate cleaners - apparently "not our job".
I can't find any park or local by-laws forbidding fastening posters to either the park's railings or the estate's railings either. I'm sure that if there were a by-law, then we'd have heard mutterings from the same specimen who chuntered on about Lambeth possibly bringing a suit against Cressingham Gardens residents for chalking comments on the estate's footpaths - vandalism apparently, despite the chalk being erasable with friction and some water (yes, that's the level of vindictiveness and pettiness we're faced with!).
 
Why not put them up on posts within your estate on your estates property?

Couple of old broom handles or something longer should do?

<snip>You may be fighting the good fight but you also be causing somebody grief who has no option to do this!
FYI the ones (pictured here) at the front ARE on part of the estate.

Old broom handles, come off it, I've got a budget of whatever money I have left at the end of the fortnight, and nobody I know has old broom handles!

There's no point only putting them up where people on the estate can see - this estate is used (and crossed) as a right of way to reach the park and is passed by runners, dogwalkers, people with small children etc. They will be affected by any noise or dust during demolition and building, they'll also be adversely affected by a disrupted estate with a doubled housing density, almost inevitably leading to a higher crime rate.

We, the people living on this estate, tried fighting this as just *our* battle for far too long; it's time to make people who don't live here aware that it's likely to become their problem too. :(
 
People will be walking form the rotunda to Streatham Odeon today, starting soon, then (hopefully) petitioning near then, come and say hello, if you're free. :)

Interesting chat with one woman coming through the park - she used to live on the estate but moved off when she needed a bigger flat. Apparently she'd been looking out for the banners (for several weeks) and wondering if she might make one and put it up, but had half persuaded herself to butt out of it as she no longer lives here.

What can I say? If you have a connection to the estate or just want to save it from being regenerated, your help is more than welcome.
 
At long last, after a delay of a whole season (it was due in February at the very latest), the Test Of Opinion (TOP) has begun.

Don't kid yourself that this is just a high fallutin' word for survey, even if it's being carried out by Acuity. This TOP will determine the future of the estate, as long as it coincides with whatever the council want to do here. Me, cynical? Come off it, the results don't legally bind the council to anything, so why would councillors heed it unless it's in line with what they want?

There are two options to pick, 4 and 5; nothing else. The lengthy survey is done on the doorstep. No time to think, no time to get an interpreter unless you already have one with you, next to no allowances made for hearing impairment, fatigue, memory problems, or difficulty concentrating and/or thinking straight.

No, you may not take a copy of the form and take as much time as you need to fill it in privately, just tell the nice man (and anyone within earshot) the answers and he'll write all of them down for you. Everyone knows that council estate plebs deserve neither privacy nor trust.

No, you may not write down the answers for yourself; good grief, you'll be wanting a secret ballot for general and local elections next.
 
For veracity's sake you'll need to film them on each and every doorstep to ensure that they are filling out the form in accordance with what the householder said...
 
For veracity's sake you'll need to film them on each and every doorstep to ensure that they are filling out the form in accordance with what the householder said...
True, but:
1) I haven't got time to follow, nor anything capable of filming the hapless Acuity bloke. That's right, just one bloke to do 300+ households.
2) I'm sure he'd object, claiming breach of data protection or similar.

It's quite sickening, what some people have to do to earn a living. :(
 
'There are two options to pick, 4 and 5; nothing else.'

Don't know if this is relevant or useful, but. Have some memory of a hydro electric dam in Tasmania where locals were given 2 options to vote for, Dam 1 or Dam 2. There was a campaign to spoil the ballot paper with the words 'No Dam' and it had some success. If the guy is asking option 4 or option 5 and you say option 1, surely he has to record that?
 
<snip> Don't know if this is relevant or useful, but. Have some memory of a hydro electric dam in Tasmania where locals were given 2 options to vote for, Dam 1 or Dam 2. There was a campaign to spoil the ballot paper with the words 'No Dam' and it had some success. If the guy is asking option 4 or option 5 and you say option 1, surely he has to record that?
People here aren't being allowed to write directly on the paper themselves. The Acuity bloke seems to be asking only the householder; he asked VP, for his answers, while I was out and has neither left a form for me, nor returned to ask me. :mad:
 
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