Labour leadership

[ska invita]

Friend of a friend spoke in favour of Corbyn at Streatham CLP last night. Apparently despite loads of Chuka groupies being bussed in, Kendall still only beat Corbyn by a couple of votes for the CLP nomination

i didnt understand that - isnt it one member one vote? what were these votes?

 

[weltweit]

Jeremy Corbyn could be prime minster - Ken Livingstone
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33649251

Ken Livingstone has defended Labour leadership contender Jeremy Corbyn's electoral appeal, saying the left-winger could be prime minister.

Labour's ex-London mayor said he would not back the Islington North MP if he did not think he could win.
...

 

[articul8]

i didnt understand that - isnt it one member one vote? what were these votes?

CLP nominations are just indicative

 

[youngian]

"Rich, private school, Oxford. Meet John Mills, Labour's biggest donor"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...d.-Meet-John-Mills-Labours-biggest-donor.html
My favourite bit from that is "Mills [...] perhaps fortunately doesn’t believe in donors “pushing their weight around because they have the money”

He was invited along with Dr David Death on Newsnight to confirm the BBC's narrative that this is the 80s civil war repeating itself and failed miserably to get them to do so.

Most centrist Labour lefties like myself who are not backing Corbyn for leader are highly impressed with the standard of debate he has bought to the party. The media is still absolutely baffled why MPs who are not backing Corbyn nominated them and think still think it was a damned good move (see Burnham supporter Dawn Butler's interview with Sky fuckwit Kay Burley).

And ironically its the Blairites having the 80s style Hatton/Heffer hissy fits. I was in Streatham CLP in 2010, they were pleased to have a rising star as the new MP but if Umunna thinks he take anyone with him in a SDP style breakaway party he needs his head examining.

 

[articul8]

The lp arent getting any of my money.

Blair will be please to hear it

 

[butchersapron]

Blair will be please to hear it

Don't you fucking dare.

 

[articul8]

Don't you ducking dare.

I will fucking dare - anyone who is so sectarian as to stand on the sidelines is playing into the hands of the most reactionary neoliberal wing of the Labour hierarchy

 

[ViolentPanda]

at this point we can hope that he gets the leadership and tries to do the stuff he says he is about, thusly trolling the labour right with aplomb.

They'll naill him on the 'friend of the terrorist' thing though.

Because Blair didn't shake hands with Gadaffi Duck or anything obscene like that (which properly should have been left to his Foreign Secretary, but big Tone wanted the kudos and the photo-op), did he?

 

[butchersapron]

I will fucking dare - anyone who is so sectarian as to stand on the sidelines is playing into the hands of the most reactionary neoliberal wing of the Labour hierarchy

Fuck off, you're back with your oh the bnp will be very glad to hear that you're voting no to AV. Disgusting.

Hear that everyone, give labour three quid or you're a Blair loving reactionary neoliberal. You never ever learn do you?

 

[butchersapron]

I think you've just made up a lot of people's mind there. Well done.

 

[killer b]

Comical stuff. Either with us or against us, eh?

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I will fucking dare - anyone who is so sectarian as to stand on the sidelines is playing into the hands of the most reactionary neoliberal wing of the Labour hierarchy

Are you on a wind up?

 

[articul8]

frankly Corbyn can win without the support of a handful of sectarian ultra-lefts in any case. I won't waste my breath

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I will fucking dare - anyone who is so sectarian as to stand on the sidelines is playing into the hands of the most reactionary neoliberal wing of the Labour hierarchy

Anyone who votes for Corbyn is potentially condemning Britain to another ten years of Tory government at least.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Join the Labour Party or you're supporting Tony Blair.

Awesome.

 

[andysays]

I will fucking dare - anyone who is so sectarian as to stand on the sidelines is playing into the hands of the most reactionary neoliberal wing of the Labour hierarchy

On Thursday Mr Corbyn responded to his critics by calling for an end to "silly remarks".

He told the BBC: "I think politics should be conducted on a comradely and friendly basis, and if people disagree with each other then say what they disagree on, and let's keep these silly remarks to themselves."

 

[articul8]

Join the Labour Party or you're supporting Tony Blair.

Awesome.

Not "join" the Labour party - pay £3 to become a registered supporter on a one-off basis

 

[frogwoman]

I dont like the lp and dont agree with their politics. Good luck to corbyn et al but its nothing to do with being sectarian. Ill keep my £3 thanks.

 

[killer b]

...or you're supporting tony blair

 

[articul8]

Anyone who votes for Corbyn is potentially condemning Britain to another ten years of Tory government at least.

Not. at. all. Who are you supporting? Burnham? Cooper? Kendall?!!!

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I dont like the lp and dont agree with their politics. Good luck to corbyn et al but its nothing to do with being sectarian. Ill keep my £3 thanks.

Don't get going round no working class areas saying that - they'll never forgive your ultra left sectarianism

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Not "join" the Labour party - pay £3 to become a registered supporter on a one-off basis

A registered supporter of the Labour Party. Right. Or you're supporting Tony Blair.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

A registered supporter of the Labour Party. Right. Or you're supporting Tony Blair.

The litmus test.

 

[articul8]

Don't get going round no working class areas saying that - they'll never forgive your ultra left sectarianism

I really don't understand people who say "good luck to Corbyn but I'm not going to lift a finger to help"

 

[butchersapron]

Another blazingly successful and on the ball contribution there a8. How many people thinking about it have you just driven away I wonder? And you're paid to do this stuff. An expert in it. You really really don't sound like a teenage swap chest prodder at all.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I really don't understand people who say "good luck to Corbyn but I'm not going to lift a finger to help"

Well there's basic honesty for starters, which is perhaps alien to you:

"I agree that the Labour Party and its elected representatives may contact me using the data supplied. I support the aims and values of the Labour Party, and I am not a supporter of any organisation opposed to it."

 

[articul8]

driven away my arse - sectarians will stand aside and always would have. You're right though, there are some people it's not even worth engaging with.

 

[phildwyer]

I really don't understand people who say "good luck to Corbyn but I'm not going to lift a finger to help"

Doesn't what just happened in Greece make you reconsider the utility of electoral politics?

 

[articul8]

Well there's basic honesty for starters, which is perhaps alien to you:

"I agree that the Labour Party and its elected representatives may contact me using the data supplied. I support the aims and values of the Labour Party, and I am not a supporter of any organisation opposed to it."

the data issue is a red herring - tell them to unsubscribe you after and if they don't tell the Information Commissioner. As to the other, a tactical white lie would do no harm

 

[ViolentPanda]

Blair will be please to hear it

Will he?
Is that how far you've sunk, that you'll use a bogeyman in an attempt to influence events?
If so, you're no better than Blair, who did exactly that a few days ago.