Labour leadership

[Jeff Robinson]

Good effort, but unfortunately Tony B said 'star trek' not 'star wars'.

 

[Indeliblelink]

Hmmm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...used-of-inaction-over-paedophile-scandal.html

 

[weltweit]

Is it an absolute truth that no party could win in the UK on a left leaning prospectus?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...used-of-inaction-over-paedophile-scandal.html

Desperate stuff. John Mann looks like a nasty, slimy cunt.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Jeremy Corbyn, the hard-left Labour MP

...as he shall forever now be known.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

John Mann's voting record:

• Generally voted for use of UK military forces in combat operations overseas
• Consistently voted for the Iraq war
• Consistently voted against an investigation into the Iraq war
• Almost always voted against measures to reduce tax avoidance

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11093/john_mann/bassetlaw/votes

I wonder if this has anything to do with his attempted dirt digging on Corbyn?

 

[weltweit]

John Mann's voting record: ...

tbf that is a tiny fraction of his voting record as shown on that page, and much of it is quite good.

 

[Blagsta]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...used-of-inaction-over-paedophile-scandal.html

Fairly tenuous, given the general inaction of everybody about this.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

tbf that is a tiny fraction of his voting record as shown on that page, and much of it is quite good.

True, it's not terrible, but I think a lot of it is because he's been voting against tory proposals. He's clearly significantly to the right of Corbyn.

 

[Indeliblelink]

Here is Mann's open letter
http://www.mann4bassetlaw.com/an_open_letter_to_jeremy_corbyn_on_child_abuse

 

[J Ed]

Here is Mann's open letter
http://www.mann4bassetlaw.com/an_open_letter_to_jeremy_corbyn_on_child_abuse

Seems like a dangerous can of worms to open up considering how many others are implicated in this. Curious that he isn't writing an open letter to I don't know lets take a name at random... Keith Vaz

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Seems like a dangerous can of worms to open up considering how many others are implicated in this. Curious that he isn't writing an open letter to I don't know lets take a name at random... Keith Vaz

Or given that Mann claims to have been prompted to this course of action by Corbyn's leadership bid, why not drop a line to the actual current leader of the Labour Party, Harriet Harman? After all she has in the past been accused of being a one time, trendy, lefty, paedo enabler, which is what Mann is slinging at Corbyn now.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[weltweit]

..

 

[Libertad]

..

Which is the point that Louis has just made above.

 

[weltweit]

Not sure I can keep this level of interest until 10 September

 

[killer b]

drop out any time you like.

 

[brogdale]

Is it an absolute truth that no party could win in the UK on a left leaning prospectus?

"Absolute truth"?
That would seem to take us on quite an important philosophical route?

 

[andysays]

It is a truth universally acknowledged that a left wing leader in possession of the Labour Party will always be in want of an electoral victory

 

[discokermit]

...and, being thoughtful for one moment, it matters not that this circus may entrance the few thousand dreamers into more Labour led fantasies, change isn't coming from or through them anyway.

Change, when it comes, is coming from somewhere else. Somewhere that isn't busy watching this sideshow.

where? where will this change come from?
because, to be quite honest, i'm seeing fuck all evidence of anything.

 

[Brainaddict]

Is it an absolute truth that no party could win in the UK on a left leaning prospectus?

I think it would have been true for a few years either side of the millenium. Things have changed now. This is what the nu-labour pricks haven't recognised. The economy has changed, forcing lower wages, workfare and (in some areas) absurd house prices on young people who can't see any prospect of things improving. Most of those young people don't vote. Someone who could get them out to vote, in alliance with the old labourites, could conceivably win I reckon. Of course they'd still end up trounced by neo-liberals on every side and fail to do what they'd promised, but I don' t see it as impossible to get the win.

 

[chilango]

where? where will this change come from?
because, to be quite honest, i'm seeing fuck all evidence of anything.

Me neither. I probably won't until it's well under way.

Change is inevitable though.

Things as they are not sustainable. They never were. But less than ever now.

What form it takes, where - exactly - it comes from and the direction it goes is beyond me.

 

[discokermit]

that's alright then. i'll get back to my crossword.

 

[chilango]

that's alright then. i'll get back to my crossword.

May as well.

More satisfying than pinning hopes on Corbyn.

 

[discokermit]

i'll get the kettle on and await the ukip revolution.

 

[Favelado]

that's alright then. i'll get back to my crossword.

7 down - Blue Flower (4)

 

[killer b]

iris.

 

[Favelado]

iris.

Nope. I will "like" the correct answer.

 

[chilango]

that's alright then. i'll get back to my crossword.

 

[DotCommunist]

May as well.

More satisfying than pinning hopes on Corbyn.

at this point we can hope that he gets the leadership and tries to do the stuff he says he is about, thusly trolling the labour right with aplomb.

They'll naill him on the 'friend of the terrorist' thing though.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Not sure I can keep this level of interest until 10 September

Methinks Corbynmania may have peaked too soon