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Diverse teams work better than highly cohesive teams - though they need to be prepared as individuals to compromise and there needs to be a good framework for conflict resolution.
 
Chancellor, home and foreign are the 'big beast' offices. With the leader, deputy and mind on mayoral candidate - the other three most prominent roles - all being male, I am a bit surprised he didn't put a woman (probably Eagle) in somewhere more prominent. I suppose he had to show some continuity, giving little choice other than Benn, and Burnham had to be there, giving him rather less wriggle room.
 
Tories are already banging on about McDonnell being pro-IRA, question is does anyone give a shit about the IRA anymore even if they believe it?
 
remember all the shit Osborne from the press got for his lack of experience?

That's right. Next to fuck all. Some people (not here) need to give their heads a wobble as to what the fuck is happening to this country that a pompous over-fed commentariat can so blithely dictate the terms of "debate" and consensus reality.
 
Chancellor, home and foreign are the 'big beast' offices. With the leader, deputy and mind on mayoral candidate - the other three most prominent roles - all being male, I am a bit surprised he didn't put a woman (probably Eagle) in somewhere more prominent. I suppose he had to show some continuity, giving little choice other than Benn, and Burnham had to be there, giving him rather less wriggle room.

He hasn't appointed any black, disabled (AFAIK) or openly gay people either but the media won't be jumping on that tomorrow.
 
giving Angela Eagle business is a bit of a surprise, low key for a central supporter. Tories will just love her.
 
He hasn't appointed any black, disabled (AFAIK) or openly gay people either but the media won't be jumping on that tomorrow.
Seema Malhotra As shadow chief secretary to the treasury. Ohh, and Angela Eagle, or is that Maria? (e2a - it's Angela)
 
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Corbyn appoints IRA Queen

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You may laugh, but once, after an unfortunate setting-oneself-on-fire incident at a festival, I was led to the nearest first aid post. A herbal first aid post. Apart from being unable to figure out how to turn on the lights in their tent, they also manage to pour essential oils into my eyes because it was too dark to see what they were doing :eek:

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I probably know who was running that herbal first aid post too.... tbf they're herbalists not homeopaths, and also are fully trained first aiders. [/tanget]
 
Labour didn't lose in 1984 because of Michael Foot. That's a myth put about by the Tory press and Nu Labour revisionists. It lost because of the Falklands and Thatcher channelling Churchill. Foot was actually quite popular and Labour was doing well in the polls until the Falklands.

A tale doing the rounds on the picket lines 84-85 was that if Exocets had been more effective and more Royal Navy ships were lost she would have disappeared from the pages of history.
Perhaps then we may have still had some industries to keep austerity and strife from the doors of millions of workers. Jeremy Corbyn could have been a front bencher for the last thirty years!
 
Tories are already banging on about McDonnell being pro-IRA, question is does anyone give a shit about the IRA anymore even if they believe it?
Sinn Fein have been called marxists etc here constantly but their poll figures just get better, around 20% atm. I've suggested that it might be more productive to bang on about how they're just another Labour and will fold similarly. Sometimes I feel that half the posters on here could do a better job of attacking Labour than tories do tbh.
 
I have no problem with anything he has said but I am starting to think that appointing John McDonnell was a mistake, it really does just give the Tories so much to work with in terms of foreign policy and culture war bullshit.
 
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