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Starry Wisdom
He'd ruin it by adding lashings of tomato ketchup to it all. A full bottle *at least*
Labour & Anti-Semitism.
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Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
And salt before the vinegar. Philistine that he is.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
I have some concerns about the Zionist entity's comportment in Judea and Samaria
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
rekil
to menny cranks
This is palpably untrue. Following Beeley's emergence the very first thing I noticed about her was her appearances alongside professional antisemites. Her twitter is full of antisemitism. Her gibbering 21stcenturywire nutter site is full of it. Why else would Icke, Kollerstrom, Atzmon etc get platforms on there. Later on I found that she described Alain Soral as being the 'light at the end of the tunnel' on there which explained pretty much everything. Her youtube subscriptions are full of it. Her pathetic blog is full of it. Its very first entry shrieks about how the "zionist entity has infected our entire world infrastructure and is poisoning our minds, hearts and souls." Most of her loonery was eventually addressed by various media outlets so Williamson was no doubt aware of it, but either like a lot of the left he just didn't care because her Syria conspiracy theories appealed to him, or else he has a good deal in common with her generally.
The novara people were warned multiple times that their pathetic Williamson cheerleading would blow up in their smug faces. Sarkar even appeared with him last month at some debate or other.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
very good article
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
I wonder what the MP for Tel Aviv thinks of it
Shechemite
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That time was some time ago.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
This article from almost a year ago covers Beeley’s scumbaggery
Labour can be Jo Cox’s party or Chris Williamson’s – it cannot be both
Labour can be Jo Cox’s party or Chris Williamson’s – it cannot be both
rekil
to menny cranks
Most of it was pinched from us tbf. It's probably also fair to note that as much as for any other reason Oz 'yes I'm a capitalist' Katerji instrumentalises this issue to have a scrappydoesque go at Labour and the 'far left' and to push rotten Libdem ideology.
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Shechemite
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Humberto
Callooh! Callay!
It has always been a misconception that the people of Israel rather than the state is a bully. That these people aren't working class, dominated by hostile regional neighbours. They are exploited like the rest of us: send us to work, into battle, to carry their shit around. They belong to the Anglo/American (not particulary Jewish) establishment who fuck people over as always. And we know how that always goes. Don't forget we are only 60 odd years after they were systematically murdered for the good of the Reich. I hope people don't need me to tell them that.
The fact that this servant/vassal situation is slimed all over by dumbwits isn't testament to the validity of conspiracism. In fact I implore you that it won't have that effect. Which is a grim thing to have to implore. Israel and its consequences belong to America, not the other way round.
Why can't we find solidarity? The Zionist state apparatus (remember at the behest of primarily Anglo-American establishment/capitalists) is a sickness rooted in Christian Evangelism, which (I realise that is a detour) contains the American electorate in an oath which they never swore to and are not bound by. Its a culture, an understanding and it is rotten to the core. To 'sin' is to disagree with the unjust and deceitful agreements of your political masters, when logic and reality tells us that they are a clan (what was that again?) who made the agreement for their own ends.
So there is no prejudice, you can 'intermarriage'. Some people are fools (it's the correct word when you are gulled like that by David 'fucking' Icke and that most unholy bellend, Alex 'fucking $10 million a year' Jones). THEY are the problem.
The fact that this servant/vassal situation is slimed all over by dumbwits isn't testament to the validity of conspiracism. In fact I implore you that it won't have that effect. Which is a grim thing to have to implore. Israel and its consequences belong to America, not the other way round.
Why can't we find solidarity? The Zionist state apparatus (remember at the behest of primarily Anglo-American establishment/capitalists) is a sickness rooted in Christian Evangelism, which (I realise that is a detour) contains the American electorate in an oath which they never swore to and are not bound by. Its a culture, an understanding and it is rotten to the core. To 'sin' is to disagree with the unjust and deceitful agreements of your political masters, when logic and reality tells us that they are a clan (what was that again?) who made the agreement for their own ends.
So there is no prejudice, you can 'intermarriage'. Some people are fools (it's the correct word when you are gulled like that by David 'fucking' Icke and that most unholy bellend, Alex 'fucking $10 million a year' Jones). THEY are the problem.
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cantsin
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Sorry , meant on ‘ public stages / irl / festivals / etc ‘ - ie : looked at the Marx Memorial talk of hers, pure anti imperialist / anti west spiel , can’t imagine her parading her AS underbelly on a stage
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
Cheers- And I think “the state” is my general terminology wi Israel and beyond, though I admit general inarticulacy like all the time
Humberto
Callooh! Callay!
I wish they would more arduously address this.They must hear their own party, or become its enemy. Everyone one has enemies. We must decide who they are. God has an enemy. Some people (not here more specifically) need to stand up and be counted. Why shouldn't they? If you resist 'evil' (or however you want to describe it) it will run away. That is the space where we all breathe.
They knew some things in the past that some don't know now. For instance: life is more than about self-preservation. Many still know that of course.
Yes they DO hate you and band together with all their might to destroy you. Hyperbole aside, that is basically how it is. But they are all to a man/woman, raging bellends. Which they can't hide. Designs of wickedness lead to openly provable violence and injustice. That is where we come in. 'We' being those willing to rightfully do them with the ultimately correct aim of insurrection.
Call out false professions of (the correct word escapes me) sanctification. Of those who speak with forked tongues always. Who wound, kill and devour you and yours, and what belongs to you and yours. Who get better at it with every electoral capitulation cycle. Evil doctrines, rooted in bitterness, that depend on hurting some and poisoning others against them are an offence to us all.
They knew some things in the past that some don't know now. For instance: life is more than about self-preservation. Many still know that of course.
Yes they DO hate you and band together with all their might to destroy you. Hyperbole aside, that is basically how it is. But they are all to a man/woman, raging bellends. Which they can't hide. Designs of wickedness lead to openly provable violence and injustice. That is where we come in. 'We' being those willing to rightfully do them with the ultimately correct aim of insurrection.
Call out false professions of (the correct word escapes me) sanctification. Of those who speak with forked tongues always. Who wound, kill and devour you and yours, and what belongs to you and yours. Who get better at it with every electoral capitulation cycle. Evil doctrines, rooted in bitterness, that depend on hurting some and poisoning others against them are an offence to us all.
Riklet
procrastinación
What the fuck are you talking about Humberto? What a off-topic ramble.
Regarding Chris Williamson - do people reckon he'll stay suspended? I do feel that a lot of Corbyn's naivety is now coming back to bite. Btw.. what are people's main objections to Williamson here as I havent followed him on social media or anything. Had he got form? edit: just found stuff like his support of Beeley online, pretty shocking.
Regarding the use of the term 'the Zionist entity' it really comes across incredibly dodgy in 2019, in the current political climate, in my opinion.
Regarding Chris Williamson - do people reckon he'll stay suspended? I do feel that a lot of Corbyn's naivety is now coming back to bite. Btw.. what are people's main objections to Williamson here as I havent followed him on social media or anything. Had he got form? edit: just found stuff like his support of Beeley online, pretty shocking.
Regarding the use of the term 'the Zionist entity' it really comes across incredibly dodgy in 2019, in the current political climate, in my opinion.
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DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
The only people I've ever seen use it are Pickman's and a newsreader on Saudi TV.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I'm surprised more of his worse politics aren't coming out more publicly tbh. He's basically one step removed from Holocaust deniers with some of the friends he keeps. I think there will be a real struggle with the LP about his suspension and what the next step is.
And yes, I agree, saying the Israeli State works fine, anyone starts talking about Zionists and Zionism and I'm automatically quite suspicious of what they're going to come out with next.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Agreed. It shouldn’t, but by association it just does. Best to steer clear of the term if you don’t want to appear a loon.
There've been a fair few mentions of last year's Beautiful Days festival. I was there and at one debate where Williamson and Tatchell were present. (I don't remember Beeley at all though). Will get back to this when I have more time and when I've found/checked the fest programme.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
From my experience, most people who talk about anti zionism don't have much understanding of what zionism is or isn't and treat it either as a monolithic entity or, at worst, simple dog whistle anti semitism.
Shechemite
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Shechemite
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What point are you trying to make here?
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
How would you describe Pakistan created in the same year as Israel as a Muslim homeland? It's creation led to the massacre and expulsion of Hindus and Sikhs; and the expulsion and massacre of Musilms from independent India.
Many of the "settler colonists" you mention were refugees too many from the Shoah, others were Jews expelled from Arab states in the wake of the creation of the "entity". Hardly your typical colonists.
As the Asia Bibi case and the persecution of groups such as the Amhadiyya shows minorities in the Apartheid Pakistani state/the Islamic Entity don't fare so well.
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