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Killing Eve

I watched the first episode because I loved Fleabag, and it was written by Phoebe Waller-Bridge.

I was a bit put off in advance by the fact that it starred Sandra Oh, as I thought that meant that they had Americanised it, having read that it was sold first in the USA.

But I didn't get through the first episode - it sounds a bit pathetic, having read this thread, but it was too violent for me and I turned it off when the assassin stabbed a guy in the eye whilst his grandson was in a room next door.

I am now thinking I should try it again...
 
Guineveretoo said:
I watched the first episode because I loved Fleabag, and it was written by Phoebe Waller-Bridge.

I was a bit put off in advance by the fact that it starred Sandra Oh, as I thought that meant that they had Americanised it, having read that it was sold first in the USA.

But I didn't get through the first episode - it sounds a bit pathetic, having read this thread, but it was too violent for me and I turned it off when the assassin stabbed a guy in the eye whilst his grandson was in a room next door.

I am now thinking I should try it again...
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Stick with it and close your eyes during the nasty bits. I think editor sort of nailed it, it's a female-centric, love-hate buddy movie, where the buddies are on opposite sides. Phoebe Waller-Bridge's writing is what makes it. I've raid various opinions that it's way better than the source material - and that's down to her.
 
girasol said:
well, exactly, in the show itself they explained why Eve has an American accent, but not why he had an Irish accent ;) That wiki link I found says he was born in England - England ain't no Ireland!
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I don't see why every accent has to be explained, he could have grown up in Ireland. Her accent had to be explained, because as an American you can't work for MI5.
 
Reno said:
I don't see why every accent has to be explained, he could have grown up in Ireland. Her accent had to be explained, because as an American you can't work for MI5.
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I'm didn't say it had to be explained, I merely said it wasn't explained and I wondered what the back story might be... I think It's important for characters to have a coherent background/story.
 
girasol said:
I'm didn't say it had to be explained, I merely said it wasn't explained and I wondered what the back story might be... I think It's important for characters to have a coherent background/story.
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The backstory probably is that he was the best actor for the part to audition and he happened to be Irish.
 
Just watched the first episode on a binge watch. Delighted to see brilliant Fiona Shaw in the cast. I would pay to see her read a phone book out.
We have been lucky to see her twice on stage and were blown away by her skill.
Hope she gets chance to show her ability in this after her Harry Potter disappointments.

Loved the first episode.
 
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girasol said:
A few things didn't ring true or plausible to me - this pretty much sums it up KILLING EVE kills time nicely, but everything lacks believability ✭✭✭✩✩

HOWEVER, I was having fun watching it because the two main characters were just great to watch!
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kind of misses the point - its not supposed to be social realism - its high camp laced with black humour. Villienerve and her world is a knowing pastiche of spy thriller tropes - a beautiful,s exy, ruthless super assassin gliding through a world of exotic glamour. This is set against the grimy, cramped mundanity of scruffy, slightly bumbling fumbling Eve in her london based domesticity and decidedly un-glamourous version of MI5 spookery. But what makes it spark is the wonderfully realised characters.
 
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Guineveretoo said:
I watched the first episode because I loved Fleabag, and it was written by Phoebe Waller-Bridge.

I was a bit put off in advance by the fact that it starred Sandra Oh, as I thought that meant that they had Americanised it, having read that it was sold first in the USA.

But I didn't get through the first episode - it sounds a bit pathetic, having read this thread, but it was too violent for me and I turned it off when the assassin stabbed a guy in the eye whilst his grandson was in a room next door.

I am now thinking I should try it again...
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I nearly turned it off at that point but didn't and that is the worst bit; you get used to shutting your eyes now and then.
 
Just started this. The assassin seems very similar to the serial killer character in Luther but that's not really detracting from enjoying it.
 
It's defo a post #metoo drama - watching on bbc2 and so far the all the main male characters have all died in horrible ways
 
I’ve now watched two whole episodes, but I’m not being drawn in to it. Not sure why.

Maybe because I don’t like the central characters. I’m not warming to either the assassin or Eve.
 
Guineveretoo said:
I’ve now watched two whole episodes, but I’m not being drawn in to it. Not sure why.

Maybe because I don’t like the central characters. I’m not warming to either the assassin or Eve.
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Vilanelle is defo more likeable than Eve. Eve is a tosser
 
Reno said:
It’s news to me that the aim of the #metoo movement is to kill all men (horribly!!!). If it was a #metoo show, wouldn’t it have to actively deal with sexism ?
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I meant it's symbolic of the shift in society that a mainstream Saturday night drama on bbc1 can totally revolve around two female characters and the men get offed halfway through. May not have happened 5 years ago
 
Just finished the show. Didn’t even occur to me that all the majority of the main characters are female until pointed out in this thread. If that’s one of the main things people are taking away from it then society still has a long way to go.

Anyway. I thought it was enjoyable and loved how Vilanelle was portrayed by Jodie Comer. Massive difference to the character she played in doctor foster. She’s going places.
 
D'wards said:
I meant it's symbolic of the shift in society that a mainstream Saturday night drama on bbc1 can totally revolve around two female characters and the men get offed halfway through. May not have happened 5 years ago
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Villanelle is a narcistic psychopath who kills regardless of gender and she does so on the order of other men. Not sure what she has to do with #metoo. She’s not some feminist avenger, she’s ultimately a pawn who goes rogue because she has mental health issues.

There have been British prime time crime shows focused on strong female detectives since at least Prime Suspect. That would be far more of a #metoo show if it were to come out now, as it was directly concerned with issues of workplace harassment and sexism. Happy Valley is a successful pre-#metoo crime show with two female leads up against a misogynistic killer. As has been pointed out, Luther had a similar female villain as Killing Eve (with more agency). Rose and Thyme ?

Killing Eve certainly has a feminist sensibility but I see nothing that directly links it more to #metoo than previous female led crime shows.
 
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Tbf i haven't seen any of those other shows you mentioned apart from Luther, which I watched cos of Idris Elba.

Similarly I only watched Killing Eve cos of Phoebe Waller-Bridge, for whom I'd walk a million miles for one of her smiles
 
It did keep me watching til the end and the writing is very good if a bit patchy. I had hoped it would be all tied up in one series though as its style of comedy eventually wears thin and then the impossible plot intrudes too much. Jodie Comer is ace, very well played.
 
I bumped into Villanelle and Martin from the Bridge being filmed on Marchmont Street round the corner from work last week. Spoiler: they were eating falafels. Although I'm not sure if this was for a scene in the programme or they were having a break.

Killing Eve and The Bodyguard are the only telly programmes I have watched this year and I'd seen the bomb vest scene from that being filmed from my office window...

It's become hard to tell the difference between reality and telly-land :D
 
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Kaka Tim said:
kind of misses the point - its not supposed to be social realism - its high camp laced with black humour. Villienerve and her world is a knowing pastiche of spy thriller tropes - a beautiful,s exy, ruthless super assassin gliding through a world of exotic glamour. This is set against the grimy, cramped mundanity of scruffy, slightly bumbling fumbling Eve in her london based domesticity and decidedly un-glamourous version of MI5 spookery. But what makes it spark is the wonderfully realised characters.
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Yep! This exactly.
 
braindancer said:
I bumped into Villanelle and Martin from the Bridge being filmed on Marchmont Street round the corner from work last week. Spoiler: they were eating falafels. Although I'm not sure if this was for a scene in the programme or they were having a break.

Killing Eve and The Bodyguard are the only telly programmes I have watched this year and I'd seen the bomb vest scene from that being filmed from my office window...

It's become hard to tell the difference between reality and telly-land :D
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Completely ruined it for me now. :(

:D
 
Reno said:
Villanelle is a narcistic psychopath who kills regardless of gender and she does so on the order of other men. Not sure what she has to do with #metoo. She’s not some feminist avenger, she’s ultimately a pawn who goes rogue because she has mental health issues.

There have been British prime time crime shows focused on strong female detectives since at least Prime Suspect. That would be far more of a #metoo show if it were to come out now, as it was directly concerned with issues of workplace harassment and sexism. Happy Valley is a successful pre-#metoo crime show with two female leads up against a misogynistic killer. As has been pointed out, Luther had a similar female villain as Killing Eve (with more agency). Rose and Thyme ?

Killing Eve certainly has a feminist sensibility but I see nothing that directly links it more to #metoo than previous female led crime shows.
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I think I know what he means though, if coming up with the wrong tag for it. It’s the fact they weren’t “feminist avengers” that made it a bit different for me. Hell most of us aren’t good feminist avengers so seeing strong female characters that aren’t falling over themselves to be good role models is progress enough for me :)
 
HoratioCuthbert said:
I think I know what he means though, if coming up with the wrong tag for it. It’s the fact they weren’t “feminist avengers” that made it a bit different for me. Hell most of us aren’t good feminist avengers so seeing strong female characters that aren’t falling over themselves to be good role models is progress enough for me :)
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Screwball comedies of the 1930s and film noirs from the 1940s are full of strong female characters who aren’t falling over themselves to be good role models.
 
Watched all series one in a block and have just finished it.
I've missed out on season 2 so far.
Hope to get to watch all that in a block soon too..
 
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