Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Jeff Robinson]

Will look forward to seeing the treatment of whistleblowers blowing the whistle on any new abuses within the Labour party.

Racially abusing black labour members and helping to tank the Party's vote in elections have essentially been held to be perfectly acceptable conduct under Starmer.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Today's Labour Party apology

The Labour Party has today issued an unreserved apology to the former members of staff who contributed to a BBC Panorama programme about antisemitism within the Labour Party in July 2019.

Before the broadcast of the programme, the Labour Party issued a press release that contained defamatory and false allegations about these Whistleblowers.

We acknowledge the many years of dedicated and committed service that the Whistleblowers have given to the Labour Party as members and as staff. We appreciate their valuable contribution at all levels of the Party.

We unreservedly withdraw all allegations of bad faith, malice and lying. We would like to apologise unreservedly for the distress, embarrassment and hurt caused by their publication. We have agreed to pay them damages.

Under the leadership of Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner, we are committed to tackling antisemitism within the Labour Party. Antisemitism has been a stain on the Labour Party in recent years. It has caused unacceptable and unimaginable levels of grief and distress for many in the Jewish community, as well as members of staff.

If we are to restore the trust of the Jewish community, we must demonstrate a change of leadership. That means being open, transparent and respecting the right of whistleblowers. We are determined to deliver that change.

Sad capitulation, but to be expected from Starmer.

 

[oryx]

Will look forward to seeing the treatment of whistleblowers blowing the whistle on any new abuses within the Labour party.

Yeah, will be interesting to see how the awful abuse of Diane Abbott et al in the leaked report is dealt with.

The main problem Labour faces is factionalism.

I had little confidence that Starmer would do anything to attempt to resolve this. I now have even less.

 

[strung out]

Anyone know if there might be any truth to these rumours?

 

[AmateurAgitator]

a scaffold. i cannot understand the support among some elements of the left for the nefandous assage, who numbers among his circle the vile farage and trump.

Trump-Russia inquiry is told Nigel Farage may have given Julian Assange data

Private investigator tells House panel Farage gave thumb drive to Assange, who officials view as a conduit for the Russian government

www.theguardian.com

Trump, Assange, Bannon, Farage… bound together in an unholy alliance | Carole Cadwalladr

The WikiLeaks founder’s astonishing admission should prompt MPs finally to start asking questions

www.theguardian.com

Did'nt Wikileaks also do leaks about Trump though? And can we really trust the bourgeois media and their agenda? Btw, was unable to read the graun article about farage and assange as you need to register to read the article in full, but what I could read said farage MAY have given assange a thumb drive and MAY have done X, Y and Z. Not really anything to go on is it?

It's also worth bearing in mind that we probably can't trust the authenticity of statements from Assange at the moment because he is no doubt being interrogated by the state.

I would agree that a strong link with the likes of Farage and Trump is very problematic, but I still respect Assange for the initial work of WikiLeaks in revealing US war crimes etc.

To be honest though, I probably don't know much about wikileaks in more recent times.

 

[Pickman's model]

Did'nt Wikileaks also do leaks about Trump though? And can we really trust the bourgeois media and their agenda? Btw, was unable to read the graun article about farage and assange as you need to register to read the article in full, but what I could read said farage MAY have given assange a thumb drive and MAY have done X, Y and Z. Not really anything to go on is it?

It's also worth bearing in mind that we probably can't trust the authenticity of statements from Assange at the moment because he is no doubt being interrogated by the state.

I would agree that a strong link with the likes of Farage and Trump is very problematic, but I still respect Assange for the initial work of WikiLeaks in revealing US war crimes etc.

To be honest though, I probably don't know much about wikileaks in more recent times.

You don't need to register with the guardian

We already knew a great deal about us war crimes

I said nothing about a usb stick. I said farage and trump were numbered among his circle. And so they are. So don't get all hoity-toity because you rubbish a claim I haven't made.

 

[rasputin]

Anyone know if there might be any truth to these rumours?

There are multiple reports this morning, but they all originate from the same tweet that you quote. Personally I don't buy it. I think someone is putting this story out there to provoke a reaction - either the pro-Corbyn camp wanting to warn off Starmer, or the pro-Starmer camp to find out whether they could get away with it.

 

[teqniq]

Corbyn's statement today:

 

[Struwwelpeter]

Corbyn's statement is interesting for three reasons:

1. It shows him to be uncompromising and principled,
2. These same attributes are what makes him unwilling to grasp the realities of successful politics and ultimately why he was unsuitable as a Labour leader (notwithstanding all the false shit he had to put up with from the press and the right of the LP)
3. His final comment is spot on and Starmer would do well to heed it if he is to build some unity.

(as you can tell, I'm not a supporter of Corbyn, but I do think that the personalised vendettas against him did severe damage to the future of the UK)

 

[AmateurAgitator]

don't get all hoity-toity because you rubbish a claim I haven't made.

Lol! You need to chill the fuck out mate.

 

[Pickman's model]

Lol! You need to chill the fuck out mate.

yeh it's never your fault that your posts are pisspoor, it's other people's for pointing it out. you need to catch yourself on.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

@ Pickman's Model - Yes, I am able to read the rest of the article after all, however it shows no actual evidence of a strong connection between Farage and Assange and certainly not Trump. In the top Guardian article you posted (bourgeois madia), it states that US intelligence people have suspected this- US intelligence cannot be trusted, and you can't go on things they merely say MIGHT have happened.

Do you have any actual proof that, as you put it, Assange is 'in Trumps' circle?'

Also you didn't answer my question regarding if WikiLeaks has done leaks exposing Trump.

And I was in no way 'hoity toity' as you put it at all.

 

[krtek a houby]

Will look forward to seeing the treatment of whistleblowers blowing the whistle on any new abuses within the Labour party.

Am sure any and all allegations will be taken care of in the correct manner. Keir-less whispers only, of course.

 

[Pickman's model]

@ Pickman's Model - Yes, I am able to read the rest of the article after all, however it shows no actual evidence of a strong connection between Farage and Assange and certainly not Trump. In the top Guardian article you posted (bourgeois madia), it states that US intelligence people have suspected this- US intelligence cannot be trusted, and you can't go on things they merely say MIGHT have happened.

Do you have any actual proof that, as you put it, Assange is 'in Trumps' circle?'

Also you didn't answer my question regarding if WikiLeaks has done leaks exposing Trump.

And I was in no way 'hoity toity' as you put it at all.

jesus mary and joseph

i never said that assange is in trump's circle. i said that assange numbers farage and trump in his circle.

i don't think i need to answer any questions until you understand my post. and that, it seems, may take quite some time.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

jesus mary and joseph

i never said that assange is in trump's circle. i said that assange numbers farage and trump in his circle.

It's basically the same thing

 

[AmateurAgitator]

i don't think i need to answer any questions until you understand my post. and that, it seems, may take quite some time.

Yeah, your post is so 'sophisticated' and amazing that it couldn't possibly be understood by a pleb like me. Fucking hell, such pathetic arrogance.

I did suspect, as you have demonstrated such arrogance and clearly enjoy arguing and insulting people so much, that this would be a waste of time. Which it clearly is.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's basically the same thing

Trump, Assange, Bannon, Farage… bound together in an unholy alliance | Carole Cadwalladr

The WikiLeaks founder’s astonishing admission should prompt MPs finally to start asking questions

www.theguardian.com

 

[Sasaferrato]

Anyone know if there might be any truth to these rumours?

Corbyn's response to the settlement:


Jeremy Corbyn has described Labour’s decision to settle the Panorama antisemitism libel case as “disappointing”. In a statement he said:

Our legal advice was that the party had a strong defence, and the evidence in the leaked Labour report that is now the subject of an NEC inquiry led by Martin Forde QC strengthened concerns about the role played by some of those who took part in the programme.
The decision to settle these claims in this way is disappointing, and risks giving credibility to misleading and inaccurate allegations about action taken to tackle antisemitism in the Labour party in recent years.
To give our members the answers and justice they deserve, the inquiry led by Martin Forde must now fully address the evidence the internal report uncovered of racism, sexism, factionalism and obstruction of Labour’s 2017 general election campaign.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yeah, your post is so 'sophisticated' and amazing that it couldn't possibly be understood by a pleb like me. Fucking hell, such pathetic arrogance.

i said nothing about sophistication. so stop suggesting i did.

i neither said, suggested, implied or in any way proposed that your lack of comprehension was in any way due to being a pleb or anything like that. so you can stop that nonsense right now, too.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

i said nothing about sophistication. so stop suggesting i did.

i neither said, suggested, implied or in any way proposed that your lack of comprehension was in any way due to being a pleb or anything like that. so you can stop that nonsense right now, too.

You implied it. You are an arrogant and condescending person and I'm not going to waste anymore time with you at the moment.

 

[Pickman's model]

You implied it. You are an arrogant and condescending person and I'm not going to waste anymore time with you at the moment.

i didn't imply anything of the sort. you're saying that i made out that it's cos you're a thick pleb. by no means. i suggested you're not the sharpest tool in the box without bringing class into it. and i've wasted quite enough time on you.

 

[Pickman's model]

I did suspect, as you have demonstrated such arrogance and clearly enjoy arguing and insulting people so much, that this would be a waste of time. Which it clearly is.

ah - the crafty edit, such a mark of the wrong un

what's a waste of time is trying to engage with someone who seems to have great difficulty understanding simple posts and who makes out i've said things i haven't.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Imagine suggesting that the leader of a political party acts politically. The nerve!

 

[Struwwelpeter]

Imagine suggesting that the leader of a political party acts politically. The nerve!

Quite something for Kuenssberg, a BBC journalist after all, making a political not a journalistic point.

Or maybe not. She should STFU and get on with her day job or move to the Telegraph.

 

[bellaozzydog]

Quite something for Kuenssberg, a BBC journalist after all, making a political not a journalistic point.

Or maybe not. She should STFU and get on with her day job or move to the Telegraph.

kurnssberg should be put up against a fucking wall sans blindfold. She’s not a journalist, at best a Tory party stenographer at worst a fully involved propagandist

how did we get into this position

 

[Shechemite]

Because of cunts like you. Angry internet man

 

[AmateurAgitator]

i suggested you're not the sharpest tool in the box

You are the one posting unsubstantiated drivel from the bourgeois media and then being unable to answer questions about such posts.

 

[danny la rouge]

Assange is first of all a right libertarian. I mean forget everything else for now. For that alone, fuck him.

Quite why we still have to squabble over the greasy creep is beyond me

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Assange is first of all a right libertarian.

I was unaware of this. I assumed that he was on the left in some way, which still doesn't excuse the arrogant, condescending attitude. Still hope he is not done for exposing US war crimes though, as that would set a bad prescendent, such work is worthy.

 

[danny la rouge]

I was unaware of this. I assumed that he was on the left in some way. Still hope he is not done for exposing US war crimes though, as that would set a bad prescendent, such work is worthy.

I hope he’s not done for that. But running away from rape charges saying he feared extradition to the US, but running to the UK (which has extradition treaties with the US) is not, shall we say, entirely believable.

He should have answered the rape charges in Sweden at the time. Not made the big self defeating meal he chose to make of it over many years. The slimeball.