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Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

FFS no one needs this spite.

Its just facts, people will die under the tories.

I was told the northern working class voted brexit because they wanted change and to protest. But then when they had a choice for change they voted for more of the same and racism.
 
Its just facts, people will die under the tories.

I was told the northern working class voted brexit because they wanted change and to protest. But then when they had a choice for change they voted for more of the same and racism.
Yup the northern working class leave areas are full of racism probably similar to the Confederate States actually where as the south remaining areas are havens of fully integrated communities where racism is unheard of.
 
Yup the northern working class leave areas are full of racism probably similar to the Confederate States actually where as the south remaining areas are havens of fully integrated communities where racism is unheard of.

Do they vote Tory? People that vote tory vote for racism.
 
No.
I have never mentioned a return to a tory like Blair, and you can fuck off for suggesting it.
I would love to see an honest Labour leader with electable policies so the tories can get the hammering they so richly deserve.

What's better, an unelectable Labour party that can do nothing, or a moderate, electable party that can keep the tories out and do something useful?

That's where the Corbyn lot are going wrong, they're putting idealism before realism, and that makes them idiots. Labour got absolutely spanked, but some here refuse to even look at the causes they don't want to think about because it doesn't suit their political viewpoint.
There's a fucking massive elephant shitting on your carpet, but you're refusing to look at it, blaming the smell on whatever you can think of that isn't an elephant.
You've said Labour should ditch socialism to be electable, arriving where Kinnock and hodge were 30 years ago. Your project is an opportunistic lying project ending in a new Blair. Have you not followed the last 30+ years? There are none so blind as those who will not see
 
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When their children have died, they can console themselves with not hearing any foreign voices in the street.
Most of the racist shits I've come across up here in the north have been visiting wankers from down south and mostly from London. :facepalm:
 
Try real policies like removing business managers from the NHS and putting people in there with Yorkshire/Scottish generosity.
The Tories see NHS success as getting rid of as much as they can to private suppliers, Labour see success as how much cash they can throw at it.
I would see success as treating as many people as possible with as little waste as possible, something no fucker ever seems to think about.
I've been taking a look at how both groups treat the service, neither actually considering people, just political ideals.
Why do hospitals have fucking big wasted areas in reception? Yes they look pretty, but they cost a fortune that could be diverted to medical needs. Why do hospitals have big, fancy signs? They need direction signs so you can find wards and other places, but only a business needs advertising style signs, hospitals do not.
Business need expensive logos, hospitals can use standard fonts on a white background, but they waste money on pointless shit anyway.

I'd offer 10% of whatever saving they make (first year cost saving or one off payment in the case if an item) to every whistleblower or member of the public that reported waste. That'd leave wasteful managers fucked as in sacked for stupidity with the waste to be paid back out of their own pockets, and employees with extra cash in their pockets, all saving money that can be diverted to what hospitals are for, looking after people.

The same goes for councils and every other public service.
Look at this

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A job center is there to get people back into work, not waste piles of cash on custom consoles when a simple and cheap tablet set into a far cheaper stand would do the same job. The expensive printer at every position could be replaced with a pencil and postit notes.

Services that work as well as possible at the absolute minimum cost so as many people can be helped as possible.

What possible argument can be brought up against providing services at minimum cost and best efficiency, and punishing incompetent managers while you're at it?

Massive improvements to public services but a lot less cost as waste is consigned to history.
So it doesn't look as pretty, but someone needing life saving medical care is less likely to be interested in a nice reception area if their life is saved as a direct result of dumping waste.
 
Its just facts, people will die under the tories.

People always die. The trick is to remember that people dying is a bad thing, because people are worth something. We hate tories because they don't believe people are worth anything. Proclaiming the worthlessness of large chunks of society does not feel like a very anti-tory thing to do.
 
I work in the NHS. I have a Windows 7 computer, staff regularly get chest infections because the building is so damp, there's a hole in the roof, and the phones have been down twice this month because rats ate through the cables and there's no money to fix the basement properly.

Excess waste in the public sector. You fucking twat.
 
Try real policies like removing business managers from the NHS and putting people in there with Yorkshire/Scottish generosity.
The Tories see NHS success as getting rid of as much as they can to private suppliers, Labour see success as how much cash they can throw at it.
I would see success as treating as many people as possible with as little waste as possible, something no fucker ever seems to think about.
I've been taking a look at how both groups treat the service, neither actually considering people, just political ideals.
Why do hospitals have fucking big wasted areas in reception? Yes they look pretty, but they cost a fortune that could be diverted to medical needs. Why do hospitals have big, fancy signs? They need direction signs so you can find wards and other places, but only a business needs advertising style signs, hospitals do not.
Business need expensive logos, hospitals can use standard fonts on a white background, but they waste money on pointless shit anyway.

I'd offer 10% of whatever saving they make (first year cost saving or one off payment in the case if an item) to every whistleblower or member of the public that reported waste. That'd leave wasteful managers fucked as in sacked for stupidity with the waste to be paid back out of their own pockets, and employees with extra cash in their pockets, all saving money that can be diverted to what hospitals are for, looking after people.

The same goes for councils and every other public service.
Look at this

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A job center is there to get people back into work, not waste piles of cash on custom consoles when a simple and cheap tablet set into a far cheaper stand would do the same job. The expensive printer at every position could be replaced with a pencil and postit notes.

Services that work as well as possible at the absolute minimum cost so as many people can be helped as possible.

What possible argument can be brought up against providing services at minimum cost and best efficiency, and punishing incompetent managers while you're at it?

Massive improvements to public services but a lot less cost as waste is consigned to history.
So it doesn't look as pretty, but someone needing life saving medical care is less likely to be interested in a nice reception area if their life is saved as a direct result of dumping waste.
So, a loon too.

As if waste hasn't been one of the rubrics under which successive labour and tory and lib-dem govts have run down and underfunded the NHS and other vital social services.
 
Try real policies like removing business managers from the NHS and putting people in there with Yorkshire/Scottish generosity.
The Tories see NHS success as getting rid of as much as they can to private suppliers, Labour see success as how much cash they can throw at it.
I would see success as treating as many people as possible with as little waste as possible, something no fucker ever seems to think about.
I've been taking a look at how both groups treat the service, neither actually considering people, just political ideals.
Why do hospitals have fucking big wasted areas in reception? Yes they look pretty, but they cost a fortune that could be diverted to medical needs. Why do hospitals have big, fancy signs? They need direction signs so you can find wards and other places, but only a business needs advertising style signs, hospitals do not.
Business need expensive logos, hospitals can use standard fonts on a white background, but they waste money on pointless shit anyway.

I'd offer 10% of whatever saving they make (first year cost saving or one off payment in the case if an item) to every whistleblower or member of the public that reported waste. That'd leave wasteful managers fucked as in sacked for stupidity with the waste to be paid back out of their own pockets, and employees with extra cash in their pockets, all saving money that can be diverted to what hospitals are for, looking after people.

The same goes for councils and every other public service.
Look at this

View attachment 192868

A job center is there to get people back into work, not waste piles of cash on custom consoles when a simple and cheap tablet set into a far cheaper stand would do the same job. The expensive printer at every position could be replaced with a pencil and postit notes.

Services that work as well as possible at the absolute minimum cost so as many people can be helped as possible.

What possible argument can be brought up against providing services at minimum cost and best efficiency, and punishing incompetent managers while you're at it?

Massive improvements to public services but a lot less cost as waste is consigned to history.
So it doesn't look as pretty, but someone needing life saving medical care is less likely to be interested in a nice reception area if their life is saved as a direct result of dumping waste.

So bland signs and tablets is your manifesto. Wow! What an offer to the public you make! I'm sure Labour will gain all those seats back in a landslide five years down the line.
 
Why do hospitals have fucking big wasted areas in reception? Yes they look pretty, but they cost a fortune that could be diverted to medical needs. Why do hospitals have big, fancy signs? They need direction signs so you can find wards and other places, but only a business needs advertising style signs, hospitals do not.
Business need expensive logos, hospitals can use standard fonts on a white background, but they waste money on pointless shit anyway.

I have no idea what hospital(s) you have been in, but ours have none of that. :hmm:

Main reception is fairly small, with a small shop & small coffee-shop, both paying rent. No fancy signs & a standard font, white on blue logo.
 
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Oh my what a fancy flashy sign! Such waste! Make it black and white and the working class will come flocking back!
 
I laughed my tits off when he gotbanned from the Trump thread but I think it's the wrong way round. I think we should ban him from posting on any other thread. And change the title to 'what stupid shit has Troooomp posted today.
As long as he's kept busy being a shrieking maniac on here the less chance there is of him doing any damage amongst the general population.
 
Interesting from Sky News (Australia).

The ‘corbynista middle class, pseudo radical agitators’ have been devastated with the collapse of the ‘red wall’.

 
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