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Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

' can beat him hands down' , even though they cldnt even win a majority vs Corbyn ? Lab in 2017, despite 2yrs of incessant attacks from every corner of the media, from his own PLP. from the rest of the HoC, from every business leader, etc etc ?

May is a useless sod, and the Tories are crap in general - They're throwing away every advantage but Labour just can't manage to gain any support. The last election should have seen that bloody useless set of tory wankers on the dole, but Labour fluffed it, leaving them with a majority.
A decent Labour leader would have been sitting in No 10 today, but that tosser - no hope.
 
People don't seem to want to acknowledge that the real difference, and what boxes us in, is the false impression of democracy and freedom we are presented with. That this is what freedom is. It's a sweetened, dumbed-down/infantilised narrative that is a necessity for an unequal society. An arrangement that deprives the majority and causes so much harm. I hate conspiracism, I hate anti-semitism. I would rather years of austerity before billionaires swipe up the last remnants than get behind cunts like that. But it needs to be fought for, not abandoned. So while I despise the one I feel very conflicted that a return to careerist drones/centrists and so forth is the only solution and possibility.

Careerist drones and centrist scum are a big part of the reason why we're in this mess in the first place.
 
I don't think so. Centrist careerist drones it is then.

I agree we don’t want to go there, but the members would still choose any new leader. Unlikely they will shoe-in a complete Blairite. It’s not yet clear though who could both be free of the anti-semitism furore and carry on the decent work.
 
I agree we don’t want to go there, but the members would still choose any new leader. Unlikely they will shoe-in a complete Blairite. It’s not yet clear though who could both be free of the anti-semitism furore and carry on the decent work.

Laura Pidcock / Clive Lewis next up possibly - Laura far too young inexperienced on paper, and Lewis prone to the wobbles, but after 2022 , they might be a decent proposition
 
Laura Pidcock / Clive Lewis next up possibly - Laura far too young inexperienced on paper, and Lewis prone to the wobbles, but after 2022 , they might be a decent proposition

Pidcock seems solid, but Lewis? Really?

Pidcock and Tom Pidcock preferred.
 
Pidcock seems solid, but Lewis? Really?

Pidcock and Tom Pidcock preferred.

Lewis - has the 'ostensibly a normal human being' factor which can go a long way, + will keep some centrists on board etc...who do you mean by Tom Pidcock ( assuming typo ) ?
 
Lewis - has the 'ostensibly a normal human being' factor which can go a long way, + will keep some centrists on board etc...who do you mean by Tom Pidcock ( assuming typo ) ?

World U23 Cyclocross Champ and general superstar on two wheels.
 
tbh it doesn't matter to me whether he's a member or not, i wouldn't be willing to support them.

It's a tough old choice but ostensibly the Labour party is a more palatable alternative than it has been before and holds potential for putting through leftist policy.

In reality it doesn't matter for shit because I live in a very safe conservative area so my vote is irrelevant on all levels.
 
its already been stated that he's stood against labour to recently to be allowed back.

yet they will accept defecting tory councillors (can't remember the last time an MP crossed the floor to labour, but think one did during the blair years)

without wishing to argue the merits or otherwise of george galloway, it seems a double standard that someone who might once have posted on farcebook that they were voting (even tactically) for another party gets refused membership, but a previously opposition councillor is welcomed...
 
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