Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Wilf]

This might have been better on the 'grauniad is going down the pan' thread, but it's Corbyn related:
Revealed: how an increasingly powerful Momentum is transforming Labour
It's a party within a party type story, y'know, a 'guardian investigation'. However they get their narratives in a twist by quoting Momentum voting against a Corbyn supported candidate in a local selection - and go on to admit that Momentum are only getting 'their' candidates selected 1/3 of the time.

Fwiw, Momentum clearly are an organised group within the party (obviously). They also do show signs of doing the things they should have been doing for 2 years - organising. But it's slightly embarrassing for the guardian when their 'investigation' only produced the thin fayre in this story. In fact it seems pretty lazy as a piece of journalism. Not one single expose, nothing that couldn't have been produced in an afternoon's googling. Hang on, that's exactly what it was!

 

[agricola]

That said, we all thought the Manchester bombing and London Bridge attack were going to torpedo Labour's election campaign. Personally I think in the end they probably did do enough to shift the dial away from Labour to keep Corbyn out of number 10, but as much by checking the momentum of the campaign as voters not trusting him on security.

Looking back there was probably no Labour fall thanks to the two terror attacks because they already had a coherent policy on domestic security; ie: more cops and more neighbourhood policing, and it contrasted well with the cuts to policing that were being offered up by the other side. If people were put off by him it was probably more due to the lack of a coherent policy with regards to defence matters, which was best revealed by the stance on Trident that satisfied no-one and which was never really explained either way.

They do desperately need to come up with one and Corbyn needs to agree it, understand it and be attached to it rather than just going through the motions. They also have to start highlighting what the other side have done since 2010, because it is scandalous and there is ample scope for them to do serious damage to the Tories with it.

 

[editor]

Quite incredible exchange here between a super slippery John Sweeney and Alex Salmond.

Alex Salmond's Heated Exchange With BBC Journalist Over Corbyn Hat - LBC

 

[Vintage Paw]

Hat-gate will go down in history as one of the more surreal moments of the past few years - up there with the battle of the thames.

 

[Vintage Paw]

To add fuel to the hat fire:


Not known for his support of the left, is old Jolyon.

 

[bemused]

They do desperately need to come up with one and Corbyn needs to agree it, understand it and be attached to it rather than just going through the motions.

I don't know, Corbyn has a magical power that means he does rather well without a policy.

 

[bemused]

Hat-gate will go down in history as one of the more surreal moments of the past few years - up there with the battle of the thames.

It's comedy gold.

 

[scifisam]

Quite incredible exchange here between a super slippery John Sweeney and Alex Salmond.

Alex Salmond's Heated Exchange With BBC Journalist Over Corbyn Hat - LBC

I bet it wasn't photoshopped will turn out to mean "we used Lightroom" or some other programme instead.

 

[Wilf]

I bet it wasn't photoshopped will turn out to mean "we used Lightroom" or some other programme instead.

Yeah, it really isn't photoshopped and the shape of the hat outline is exactly the same. But there's clearly an attempt to deceive with their use of colouring, contrast etc. They knew exactly what they were doing.

 

[gentlegreen]

 

[Kaka Tim]

The bbc's attempts trying to brazen this out are breathtaking.

 

[Vintage Paw]

This whole thing is an example of why we need the Humanities, and why the Humanities are always under attack.

 

[teqniq]

The bbc's attempts trying to brazen this out are breathtaking.

They are lying fucks end of.

 

[SpookyFrank]

To add fuel to the hat fire:


Not known for his support of the left, is old Jolyon.

Lets see this document then pal. Public interest and all that.

e2a: He says he won't release it because to do so would compromise his correspondant's anonymity. But he will swear on a stack of bibles that what he says is true, ie that senior figures at the BBC are using imagery to systematically mislead the public and one of these admitted this to him in writing.

 

[19force8]

Lets see this document then pal. Public interest and all that.

e2a: He says he won't release it because to do so would compromise his correspondant's anonymity. But he will swear on a stack of bibles that what he says is true, ie that senior figures at the BBC are using imagery to systematically mislead the public and one of these admitted this to him in writing.

The things people put in writing eh?

Perhaps Jolyon won't release the letter until he's completed the negotiations to represent him at tribunal when he gets sacked for whistleblowing.

 

[Poi E]

Are people really surprised at this? Did anyone note the BBC indyref coverage?

 

[bemused]

Are people really surprised at this? Did anyone note the BBC indyref coverage?

I've never seen any side of a political debate not claim the BBC are bias towards the other side.

 

[19force8]

Not sure if this is the right thread for this one, but I felt the need to share a little gem that will otherwise be overlooked.

First a word of explanation. I never thought I'd miss getting a letter written in green ink - bonkers, obsessive and completely rational by the writer's standards, they would always take more time than you could afford and induce a feeling that only death (or in my case retirement) would free you from their grip. However, they were also a break from the humdrum and a source of wonder. To fill this void in my life [] I follow bloggers. Indubitably the best, from my twisted point of view, is Tony Greenstein's and today's is a classic. A third of the way down Tony reproduces a three way correspondence between himself, Sally from "Labour against the witchunt" and Steve of the Skwawkbox blog. It starts at 5.45pm and at a quarter past midnight Steve tries to end it with "we're done," but as Tony says "you don't get to decide when something is done." You can sense Steve's horror as he realises there's no escape. Been there so often, pure schadenfreude!

Enjoy [or not]

Tony Greenstein's Blog: Labour Against the Witchhunt Lobby of NEC: Lansman sneaks in through the back door

 

[NoXion]

I've never seen any side of a political debate not claim the BBC are bias towards the other side.

So what? What substantiates a claim is the evidence supporting it, not the claim itself.

 

[killer b]

oh dear.

 

[butchersapron]

Presumably that's ex RESPECT bigwig Yvonne Ridley being openly anti-semitic there as well isn't it?

 

[killer b]

looks like it.

 

[rutabowa]

that is pretty indefensible if it is actually his account.

you don't spell Diego Rivera wrong if your wife is mexican tho? if you value your wellbeing and peace of mind anyway. ime

 

[killer b]

It's his account. The comment is still there on the racist artist's facebook page.

 

[rutabowa]

ohhh.

 

[rutabowa]

Maybe his time is up.... might start a thread about it

 

[Kaka Tim]

oh dear.

i dont get whats being alleged here - who posted the mural? what is corbyn being accused of here? that he allowed it on his page?

 

[not-bono-ever]

why did you put up that FB link ?

I have just trawled his page - Grrrrrrr - yes, it ticks all the usual boxes. And he is an anarchist as well apparently

 

[binka]

i dont get whats being alleged here - who posted the mural? what is corbyn being accused of here? that he allowed it on his page?

Mural was painted by artist, council said they were going to remove it, looks like Corbyn is asking 'why?'. I mean it's pretty obvious why

 

[killer b]

i dont get whats being alleged here - who posted the mural? what is corbyn being accused of here? that he allowed it on his page?

He commented supportively on a wildly anti-semitic artist's complaints of his wildly antisemitic mural being removed. Under a picture of the wildly antisemitic mural in question.