Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Thought Dawn Butler looked / sounded comfortable / engaging at the Corbo launch this morning, bantz with the journos etc .
And then someone @ JC HQ presumably thought it might be a good idea to pack her off to do battle with Eddie Mair on R4-PM this evening
Perhaps we should have a 'GE comedy moments' thread?
To describe the interview as a car crash would be overly charitable - it was awful, and to cap the evening off she's spent the hours since apologising on Twitter to the lawyers of the multi-nationals she accused of not paying their taxes...
cantsin
Well-Known Member
luckily its mainly soc meejah w*nkers and the like who get over excited by R4 bollocks, will be forgotten by tmmrw, it's just the idea of someone at HQ thinking it was good idea in the first place - she too young, too green, by miles, for that Eddie Mair schtick
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Nope, the transcript will be in the Sun tomorrow morning - with associated commentary - and the recording will be going through social media like the shits on a cruise ship.
It's done, there's nothing that can be done about it, but it will do damage.
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Corporate lawyers are a very forgiving bunch. Sure it'll be fine.
Oh, and start that thread! Some pages, this one's only just managing to maintain any level of seriousness. If they're going to start handing out own goals it'll degenerate fast.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
just listened to it. Good god!Thought Dawn Butler looked / sounded comfortable / engaging at the Corbo launch this morning, bantz with the journos etc .
And then someone @ JC HQ presumably thought it might be a good idea to pack her off to do battle with Eddie Mair on R4-PM this evening
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
When Major stood on a soap box as a stunt that time, the fuckwit press were all like "it's a work of political genius, he's so in touch with the people"
When Corbyn behaves in a parallel fashion and with genuine motive, the same twats are like "He's a disaster, he's not in touch with people"
Who on earth is still falling for their utter shit?
When Corbyn behaves in a parallel fashion and with genuine motive, the same twats are like "He's a disaster, he's not in touch with people"
Who on earth is still falling for their utter shit?
cantsin
Well-Known Member
am suspecting not, we'll see
from another angle, team Corbo take the plunge, have normal decent folk like Butler introing the launch speech, interacting with the journos on an human basis, with a smile / attempting to enjoy it all ...I guess there's a consistency to then just sending her on to face Mair / PM, saying this is what we are etc ....
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Most people. Including many who weren't even born when Major was PM and have no real idea who he is.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Too young? She's 47!
Tthirteen labour mps are standing down and a committee ,split evenly between Corbynistas and Watsonians will choose the candidates.These are key in the nominations battle to come if and when Jezza stands down.
Corbyn is said to want at least three seats -for his son Seb,his chief of staff and McCluskeys dancing partner Karie Murphy and his political secretary Katy Clark.Prezza junior wants Alan Johnsons seat.
Dave Anderson standing down in Blaydon provides a vacancy and Steve Rotherham running for Liverpool mayor gives another.
Watson will want a seat for Ed Balls as close to Yvettes seat in Pontefract so Michael Dughers seat in Barnsley looks favourite.Tom will also have personal supporters to advance.
Given how much rides on it -it will be a stitch up in the best blair and brown traditions -this is how watson,johnson and david miliband got their seats when mps were persuaded to stand down in exchange for peerages.
Corbyn is said to want at least three seats -for his son Seb,his chief of staff and McCluskeys dancing partner Karie Murphy and his political secretary Katy Clark.Prezza junior wants Alan Johnsons seat.
Dave Anderson standing down in Blaydon provides a vacancy and Steve Rotherham running for Liverpool mayor gives another.
Watson will want a seat for Ed Balls as close to Yvettes seat in Pontefract so Michael Dughers seat in Barnsley looks favourite.Tom will also have personal supporters to advance.
Given how much rides on it -it will be a stitch up in the best blair and brown traditions -this is how watson,johnson and david miliband got their seats when mps were persuaded to stand down in exchange for peerages.
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pocketscience
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Just what i was thinking.
And "too grren by miles" ... for a bloody radio interview. She's an MP ffs.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
She's 47, she's been an MP for 12 years. She was a junior minister under the Mighty Broon and somehow managed a marathon 3 months as a junior shadow minister under the Comrade.
What's your definition of the age/experience mix required to cope with a fairly simple radio interview - Edward III? Yoda? The Lord God Himself?
cantsin
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fuck, got it totally wrong, thought she was 2015 intake , and much younger - just not up to doing the R4 PM routine then.
My bad, but at least it all gives you lot more to rub your hands together about, enjoy
fuck, got it totally wrong, thought she was 2015 intake , and much younger - just not up to doing the R4 PM routine then.
My bad, but at least it all gives you lot more to rub your hands together about, enjoy
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Just because I like to be extra miserable. It has occured to me that even if by some miracle Labour were to win the election, it would not really make a great deal of difference. Corbyn will be unable to implement any of his policies as the majority of his own parties MPs would not vote for them. He would therefore either have to follow a road that is acceptable to the right of the Labour party, or his government would collapse.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Not just that but the economy would also come under immediate and sustained attack from bond and currency markets etc.
Democracy is a funny thing.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
of course not.
It would be a lot of fun initially, allow for massive temporary schadenboners and virtual score settling on all sorts of fronts ( I'd be tempted to go and camp outside Ian Austins house, just to...see him, his face, I dunno...... ) and an energising signifier , ie : kinda like the leadership elections, but writ large.
But as you say, not realistic.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
all of which would immediatly be pointed out as the fault of corbyns labour by the press. Never can it be suggested that capital has its own agency and methods that consider democracy a mere inconvenience
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
most MP's would be fine with most of it. All the economics and the vague equalities stuff is absolutely fine - as long as it is god enough to get them elected. Labour MP's only care about being elected, if a policy is popular enough to achieve that, they'll support it.
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
But there are plenty who are unlikely to want to resign themselves to the backbench place - in some cases, realistically, for the rest of their political careers -- that they'd have to accept under this mythical Corbyn administration.
The trouble is, it's chicken/egg time.
If Corbyn and McDonnell were to sweep to power in a landslide, the papers all hailed them as the saviours of the country, and the populace accepted just how wrong they'd been to ever support anyone else's policies once they saw just how much better their lives were under the new regime, then no doubt Labour MPs of all stripes would realise pretty quickly which side their bread was buttered on.
But in reality, if any victory at all is possible it would have to be scraping in amid hostility from the entire 'Westminister bubble', Labour right and all. Supporters will say it's that climate that prevents the Corbyn administration from achieving anything. Detractors will say it's the failure to achieve anything that creates the climate.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
If that's true - and I'm not suggesting it isn't - then St Corbo of Islington is every bit as much the machine man (and nepotist) as any other politician. A battle against elites and cartels!
an anti elitist doesn't spend decades as a professional politician after all
yes, kebab king has left the building now.
bendeus
Bellend Tagline Generator
It's like she turned the 'Thick of It' dial up to 11. I had to turn her off I was cringing so much. Staggeringly inept.
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I'm such a wimp I end up actually feeling sorry for a professional politician! That was genuinely the worst politico interview I can remember in, phew, 10 years?
bendeus
Bellend Tagline Generator
Yeah. I struggle to remember worse. Humphreys eviscerated her - even he sounded slightly sorry for her in the end.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
"The camera-men are laughing"
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