Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[butchersapron]

...and frankly, you should have to pay to write most of the guff on there.

 

[gosub]

no it'll be more Dallas, we'll wake up to find its early May 2015 and Ed's still in the shower.

Goiing to sleep having had too much cheese is the only logical explanation.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

...and frankly, you should have to pay to write most of the guff on there.

Sounds like a practise used in the stripping/erotic dancing field. The "artists" pay the club owner up front and get to keep the tips they earn.

 

[treelover]

A cowardly and unnamed backbench Labour MP has reacted to Sarah Champion's un-resignation from Jeremy Corbyn's team by claiming that she was intimidated and bullied into rejoining the shadow cabinet and saying that she and other shadow cabinet members are unintelligent, "politically unemployable" and will be frozen out of front bench politics if the Anyone But Corbyn coup is successful."

FB post on Momentum, but indicates bullying comments by the 'rebels' if true

Channel4 blog say " They believe that the Rotherham MP has clocked that boundary changes will be published this September and mean she could face a challenge to hold onto her seat. One Labour source said the Rotherham MP had been “semi-imposed” on the seat in a by-election and there had been suspicions she’d hadn’t had much of a commitment to the Party before she applied for the candidacy."

More smears.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

FB post on Momentum, but indicates bullying comments by the 'rebels' if true



More smears.

And if not true it indicates absolutely nothing.

 

[JimW]

At least her return will get wider reporting now they have a negative spin

 

[DotCommunist]

so the challenge to him being on the ballot automatically is being heard today. Brought by a party donor who clearly thinks hoofing a big wedge at the party entitles him to have it run as he sees fit, over the heads of the unions and wider membership. How do we rate his chances here? I'd have thought the NEC vote on the matter should have settled the matter, but then I'm not used to using courts and money to enforce my will.

 

[killer b]

All the twitter lawyers were of the view that the NEC decision would be final when it was initially discussed.

 

[teqniq]

This is just nuts. After last time telling me that I was not eligible to vote because 'the organisation that you are a member of has no record of your membership' (really) I get, with out doing anything at all an email the start of which says:

You were eligible to vote in the 2015 leadership election as an affiliated supporter of the Labour Party. As a result, we've contacted your affiliated organisation to confirm your continued membership. We will then re-check you against the electoral register.

We will be in touch over the coming weeks, including letting you know if you need to take any actions, but in the meantime we wanted to share more information about our upcoming leadership elections.

Your right to vote

We will confirm your right to vote once we have checked with our affiliated organisations the status of their members. We will be in touch to let you know when this happens.

Assuming that you are a paid up member of your organisation or society, you will be able to vote and you will receive your ballot via email by the end of August....

The words piss-up and brewery spring to mind.

yours, nonplussed of Tunbridge Wells.

 

[YouSir]

Labour's Future, Radical Politics

In my inbox today. RADICAL! Words, miners, Wales, stuff.

 

[Cid]

Labour's Future, Radical Politics

In my inbox today. RADICAL! Words, miners, Wales, stuff.

Standing, standing - standing, stand and standing.

 

[wheelie_bin]

This is just nuts. After last time telling me that I was not eligible to vote because 'the organisation that you are a member of has no record of your membership' (really) I get, with out doing anything at all an email the start of which says:



The words piss-up and brewery spring to mind.

yours, nonplussed of Tunbridge Wells.

Don't knock it, you'll have a vote!

 

[teqniq]

Don't knock it, you'll have a vote!

hahaha don't know about that.

 

[wheelie_bin]

WTF Guardian. Headline "Labour rules 'misapplied' when Corbyn put on leadership ballot".
Turns out in the article that's only what the bad lawyers said and there's no result yet Labour rules 'misapplied' when Corbyn put on leadership ballot, court told - Politics live

 

[killer b]

That's just a standard court proceedings headline tbf. the 'court told' bit is the clue.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Standing, standing - standing, stand and standing.

Who is he to adopt the cloak of a radical politician? All that guff about the South Wales valleys and the Miners Strike. He is a would-be con artist. We all know that he earned a very good living as a PR man for a drug company that was interested in undermining the NHS with a PFI scheme. No radical but an unconvincing Blair clone.

 

[Pickman's model]

Who is he to adopt the cloak of a radical politician? All that guff about the South Wales valleys and the Miners Strike. He is a would-be con artist. We all know that he earned a very good living as a PR man for a drug company that was interested in undermining the NHS with a PFI scheme. No radical but an unconvincing Blair clone.

he is not a would-be con artist.

he very much is a con artist.

 

[butchersapron]

Report one side as fact. Then say you reported what happened. Blur cases with conclusions.

 

[wheelie_bin]

That's just a standard court proceedings headline tbf. the 'court told' bit is the clue.

I know, it's just the use as a headline rather than just saying the trial is on.

(Edited to fix typo)

 

[Hocus Eye.]

That's just a standard court proceedings headline tbf. the 'court told' bit is the clue.

Well spotted killer b. I was thinking that it was the conclusion of the court proceedings but in fact it is just a digest of the input evidence at the beginning. There is hope that the court will come to a more useful conclusion when all is taken into account.

 

[two sheds]

When Corbyn's barrister puts his side we'll of course have the balancing headline:

Labour rules 'properly applied' when Corbyn put on leadership ballot, court told.

 

[killer b]

Fair point.

 

[lazythursday]

It is truly wonderful to look at the contrast between this leadership election and the last one. Owen, desperate to talk about the miners and his radicalism vs Andy, Yvette and Liz barking on about business and aspiration. Everything has changed, the ground has shifted and the consequences of that will be felt for a long time even if Corbyn were to lose.

 

[free spirit]

It is truly wonderful to look at the contrast between this leadership election and the last one. Owen, desperate to talk about the miners and his radicalism vs Andy, Yvette and Liz barking on about business and aspiration. Everything has changed, the ground has shifted and the consequences of that will be felt for a long time even if Corbyn were to lose.

depends of anyone who followed corbyn was capable of walking the walk not just talking the talk

 

[maomao]

It is truly wonderful to look at the contrast between this leadership election and the last one. Owen, desperate to talk about the miners and his radicalism vs Andy, Yvette and Liz barking on about business and aspiration. Everything has changed, the ground has shifted and the consequences of that will be felt for a long time even if Corbyn were to lose.

Nope. If Corbyn goes it'll all be dropped immediately and it'll be back to aping the Tories and worrying about floating voters,

 

[Cid]

It's a bit weird this court thing. I mean the reason the NEC has been able to do the membership, £25 stuff is that it has the power to interpret and rule on the application of the rulebook (and change it). Administration of the LP isn't governed by legislation, it's an unincorporated association whose constitution governs its operation. I'm not quite sure on what basis the court would step into that... I think the earlier (pro) Corbyn argument was based on breach of contract, but even then it seemed somewhat weak. Not going to start reading the rulebook again though, just have to see what happens.

 

[butchersapron]

It is governed by legislation. Everything is. Hence this.

 

[butchersapron]

It's a bit weird this court thing. I mean the reason the NEC has been able to do the membership, £25 stuff is that it has the power to interpret and rule on the application of the rulebook (and change it). Administration of the LP isn't governed by legislation, it's an unincorporated association whose constitution governs its operation. I'm not quite sure on what basis the court would step into that... I think the earlier (pro) Corbyn argument was based on breach of contract, but even then it seemed somewhat weak. Not going to start reading the rulebook again though, just have to see what happens.

The NEC can''t rule that the courts don't apply to them.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Presumably counts as a disputed contract?

 

[butchersapron]

Labour’s leadership contest rules make “no trace of distinction” between an incumbent leader and a challenger and thus both should be required to seek nominations, the high court has heard.

I can spot one. Can anyone else - where's my 20 grand btw?