Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[J Ed]

I thought articul8 would've been all over these threads like a rash.

Would imagine that he is quite busy these days

Or you would hope anyway

 

[killer b]

He's on the phone to John Mcdonnell right now.

 

[Sue]

Would imagine that he is quite busy these days

Or you would hope anyway

Or hope not...

 

[Wilf]

Would imagine that he is quite busy these days

He's probably Shadow Foreign Secretary by now.

 

[two sheds]

It's next week - on tuesday.

ah ok, ta - apparently eoin on twitter has quoted some of the judge's initial statements.

 

[two sheds]

I'd be amazed if the case goes against Corbyn. However, if it did and they had to restart the leadership election, we'd be at the far end of farce, twice round the track and out the other side. Theresa May might as well just launch her loudest eggyist farts at PMQs the state the labour party is in.

Yes the wording about the 'challenger' having to have a certain number of votes combined with the NEC ruling that Corbyn should appear would you'd think clinch it.

 

[Wilf]

He's on the phone to John Mcdonnell right now.

"Right, so if we do have to get 51, how many have we got so far?"
- Erm, Dianne Abbott and Dennis Skinner.
"Dammit, I don't employ you to bring me bad news!"

 

[YouSir]

Just been reading some sniping from coup supporters - cunts. Really, I try to keep a moderate face on things, be nice in discussion, but they're arrogant, sneering, ignorant, hypocritical cunts. Fuck the lot of them.

 

[YouSir]

Here's the entrance to a keep Corbyn rally in London tonight. Quite telling.

Yes, it tells you that the Swappies are rampant opportunists. Next time make a point if you want to make one, shut up if you don't.

 

[ska invita]

Yes, it tells you that the Swappies are rampant opportunists. Next time make a point if you want to make one, shut up if you don't.

Was that the point being made?
If so, note the stalls are OUTSIDE Conway hall, as they clearly haven't been invited in and have pitched up outside anyway. Opportunist to the last. Standard behavior

 

[J Ed]

Just been reading some sniping from coup supporters - cunts. Really, I try to keep a moderate face on things, be nice in discussion, but they're arrogant, sneering, ignorant, hypocritical cunts. Fuck the lot of them.

Lots of 'these cockroach Corbynites need to be eliminated like the vermin they are especially after they dared to disagree with me which gave me a panic attack so I reported it as another case of abuse' sort of thing about in those circles.

 

[Wilf]

Lots of detail on past and previous labour leadership contests, for anyone who wants to geek-o-splurge on it:
http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN03938/SN03938.pdf

 

[YouSir]

Lots of 'these cockroach Corbynites need to be eliminated like the vermin they are especially after they dared to disagree with me which gave me a panic attack so I reported it as another case of abuse' sort of thing about in those circles.

All with a smug fucking tone too, the temptation to be every inch the angry cunt they seem to pretend they're bravely rallying against is hard to resist.

 

[mauvais]

What happens to the four million quid in various scenarios, like a split, or Corbyn losing?

To be honest, I can't fathom it, or anything like it. I'm probably lacking imagination but I can't think of anything, outside pier-based amusement arcades anyway, where people have ploughed so much money into something that they're only a hair's breadth away from wanting to see burn to the ground.

 

[binka]

What happens to the four million quid in various scenarios, like a split, or Corbyn losing?

Split makes it sound like a divorce where assets are divided up but the assets belong to the Labour party and any who split will be leaving Labour to form a new party so they'd start with nothing

 

[mauvais]

I thought that would be so, but is it definitely the case? Not something I know much about really, but it seems to me that depending on the nature of the incorporation, a split of a business entity could be anywhere between divorce-like and what you describe. How that applies to parties, even less idea.

 

[Wilf]

I thought that would be so, but is it definitely the case? Not something I know much about really, but it seems to me that depending on the nature of the incorporation, a split of a business entity could be anywhere between divorce-like and what you describe. How that applies to parties, even less idea.

If something like 100 MPs went off and said 'right that's us done, we are now members of the newly formed x party' it's clear cut (the departure of the SDP was a mini version of this - initial departures, followed by a string of other Labour MPs, but never a full CLP). Suspect it wouldn't play out like that and there will be a battle over the name and assets. Could well be a battle where decisions made at conference and in the NEC play a major role in terms of who gets what.

 

[Plumdaff]

I think you'd have some inner London CLPs voting to leave this time, which would complicate matters.

 

[Azrael]

If they do clear off, real nastiness comes with discussions over an electoral pact. Corbyn would obviously refuse to stay at 40 or so MPs, but the rebels ain't gonna cheerfully give up dozens of seats to even the parties out. Then there's the issue of who becomes the official opposition. I guess they could agree to share it, if that's even possible, but can't see 'em in the mood for that.

Electoral MAD looking depressingly inevitable.

 

[butchersapron]

The labour party isn't incorporated.

 

[Wilf]

I think you'd have some inner London CLPs voting to leave this time, which would complicate matters.

If that happened there could be the odd spat over the ownership of local HQs (owned by local parties rather than the national Labour Party, I think).

 

[Cid]

ah ok, ta - apparently eoin on twitter has quoted some of the judge's initial statements.

I've not read any details on this but afaik the initial hearing was to decide who the case was being brought against. Corbyn has won the right to defend, initially the case was intended to have Mcuntface as defendant, which raised some obvious problems.

 

[coley]

e-mail them, let them know

Don't think they would be interested, I think they may have more pressing concerns than the moans of a disgruntled would be Corbyn supporter
Then again, the disgruntled factor may bite them in the arse.

 

[killer b]

ah ok, ta - apparently eoin on twitter has quoted some of the judge's initial statements.

you can safely ignore everything eoin on twitter has to say.

 

[coley]

I reckon the 25 quidder numbers are so high because of gut reaction. They realise Jez is playing an honest game against dirty tricks, and they like him including his heartfelt left belief. I think a lot of the less commited wider electorate will feel the same after the PLP have come into line or been deselected.

Read the last word as decimated, can't think why

 

[ruffneck23]

Out of all the new members and if they are really wanting to be behind Jezza , surely there would be more than a few to stand up and become councillors / MPs to replace the plp ?

 

[Wilf]

Owen's 'furious':
Owen Smith 'furious' at Corbyn's performance against Theresa May

 

[coley]

Over the course of this thread quite a few people have come on to say that people they know who have had very little interest in politics up to now have joined to vote Corbyn purely because they have become utterly disgusted at the actions of the PLP.

Or tried to, I've been turned off politics for years but the effect of Corbyns stated policies and the referendum has certainly roused my interest, mebbes things are going to change? There is certainly a hunger for it, it's years since I have heard people take this much interest.

 

[coley]

Owen's 'furious':
Owen Smith 'furious' at Corbyn's performance against Theresa May

“I’m just as radical as Jeremy,” he said. “I’ve got wider life experience than Jeremy has, to fuel my radicalism. It helps having worked in the private sector. It helps having lived in Surrey, in order to see the massive gap that exists between the life experiences,

Absolute arsehole, mebbes if he had lived in Ashington or Blyth ( two very deprived areas around here) he might have had a whiff of credibility, but to claim a knowledge of hardship from living in the leafy Surrey suburbs! He is totally representative of everything those voting for Corbyn hate and resent.
Putting this shytehawk up as Corbyns opponent could really be the move that destroys the tattered remains of the PLP, or I can hope.

 

[8ball]

I liked Corbyn. Nice, elderly chap. Had opinions about things that it seemed like he'd actually thought about. We've moved on from that sort of thing, though.

Thinking.

It's very analogue, isn't it? When you think about it. When you think about the thinking. Takes up lots of time. Thinking about the thinking about the thinking. You know what the opinion-makers call that? Dead time, that's what they call it.

And uphill all the way. Like cycling, which Corbyn also likes. Here is a man who will make an unnecessary effort purely because he thinks it is the right thing to do. In short, a man who hates efficiency. Efficiency, and, very probably, health. He grows his own food for fuck's sake. A man in London growing his own fucking food. When you think about it (but don't spend too long over it, you feckless, inefficient scum), it's amazing that it's even legal.

And he keeps saying weird things, like he's unwilling to murder millions of people.
Obviously if it was me or you, then saying we were willing to murder millions of people would be a bad thing.

But things are different in Westminster. They're not people like us. They're people who have what it takes. On a good day, anyway.

Jeremy doesn't have what it takes. Stop Jeremy before he doesn't kill again.