Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[chilango]

Just been noticing on social media just how many RTS, anti-capitalists from the 90's/early 2000's, etc, are now with Corbyn. This is from the cartoonist Kate Evans

Plenty of us aren't. But you wouldn't see that on social media would you?

 

[J Ed]

PEOPLE WERE LITERALLY CALLING ME ON THE PHONE

They sound like anxiety-ridden 13 year old drama llamas

 

[lazythursday]

If you want to do that hebden bridge thing you better get moving as you need to post a form to them.

You can email it and do a bank transfer rather than cheque.

 

[butchersapron]

You can email it and do a bank transfer rather than cheque.

That's good. I think i misread their don't use a bank transfer thing anyway. Getting things slightyl wrong.

 

[Plumdaff]

So why not simply hold over any further items to the next meeting?

Well that's what you do if you're not out to gerrymander.

 

[heinous seamus]

Anyone know what the score is with Unison members voting in the leadership race? Looks like I'm signed up to the general political fund but not the labour link.

 

[Treacle Toes]

How you can vote in the Labour party leadership election without paying £25

 

[Treacle Toes]

Steven McCluskey
2 hrs ·
Don't Panic!! - I just spoke to Unite the Union who are in the process of preparing a statement to be launched on there website later today advising what to do to secure a vote in the upcoming labour leadership contest. It is likely to include advice on the following..

Firstly, people can join the Unite union as a community member, paying 50p a week until becoming an affiliate member by 8 August.

This would allow members or anyone interested, including students and the unemployed, to vote in the upcoming election.

Other options worth checking out include..
If you are black, Asian or belong to an ethnic minority, you would be eligible to vote in the election after paying £5 for a two-year membership of BAME Labour.

If you are LGBT, you could gain a say in the leadership election if you join LGBT Labour for £8 a year.

Alternatively, you could join Scientists for Labour for a concession rate of £5 to vote.

 

[1%er]

As someone who is rather semi-detached from British politics by distance, I have a couple of questions I'd like answers to please.

Was John Smith considered to be from the left-wing of the Labour party and if not who was the last leader of the party to come from the left-wing?

Who was the last Leader of the Labour party to win a general election and was considered to be from the left-wing of the party?

Has there ever been a situation in the British Parliament where the leader of the opposition has been unable to fill all the shadow ministerial posts?

 

[Libertad]

like stirring a cesspit with a big stick it brings to light shits you'd never seen before, in this case one johanna baxter

You should have heard her performance on The World at One, I felt like passing her a tissue through the front of the radio as her tears pooled on the kitchen worktop.

 

[nino_savatte]

Was John Smith considered to be from the left-wing of the Labour party and if not who was the last leader of the party to come from the left-wing?

Smith was in the Gaitskellite mould. He was no left-winger. Bryan Gould, his challenger, was more left-wing.

 

[DotCommunist]

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[wheelie_bin]

How you can vote in the Labour party leadership election without paying £25

Things I particularly like about this:
1) The speed at which the diversionary routes came out
2) Everyone registering this way makes a mockery of this latest ploy in a hilarious and neat "we are smarter than you as well as more numerous" way
3) The numbers registered this way will all be reported on, highlighting over and over again to everyone the shitty behaviour of the chickens, partidges and other bird-brains, which can only undermine their scummy plot further
4) They cannot close every door, window, chimney, vent etc. Collective will shall have its way.

 

[free spirit]

Pretty much all the Labour Prime Ministers from 1945-70s advocated and implemented policies similar to Corbyn, though at the time the left wing of the party was probably considerably to the left of most of them.

historically he's not really that left wing, he seems to be standing on a pretty solid social democratic platform, eg.

“We want to see a genuinely mixed economy of public and social enterprise, alongside a private sector with a long-term private business commitment, that will provide the decent pay, jobs, housing, schools, health and social care of the future. Labour will always seek to distribute the rewards of growth more fairly. But to deliver that growth demands real change in the way the economy is run,” Corbyn said.

eta it's just that the political consensus moved to neoliberalism while he's largely stuck to what worked in the post war period (and it demonstrably did work a lot better than neoliberalism in most ways)

 

[eoin_k]

1%er I guess last time Labour had a leader from the left-wing of the party was under Michael Foot, when the right split off to form the SDP and Thatcher was elected in 1983 with 42.5% of the vote as against a combined total of 53% for Labour and the SDP/Liberal Alliance.

ETA: The decision of Ramsay MacDonald, Labour's first PM, to abandon the party from the right to form a national government also caused a crisis for the party throughout the 1930s. The right-wing of the Labour Party bare their fair share of responsibility for Labour's electoral misfortunes over the years.

 

[1%er]

DotCommunist I guess by deleting your post you no longer believe Ramsay MacDonald is the answer to my question, but an interesting wiki page never the less

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Anyone know what the score is with Unison members voting in the leadership race? Looks like I'm signed up to the general political fund but not the labour link.

Edit - ignore that, I read it as Unite, not Unison and posted wrong info.

 

[DotCommunist]

DotCommunist I guess by deleting your post you no longer believe Ramsay MacDonald is the answer to my question, but an interesting wiki page never the less

I didn't want to argue with people today, its been a long day so i deleted. If you want an interesting read on brit politics shennanigans try the wiki on the Zinoviev Letter.

 

[oneflewover]

My union, the TSSA, has just emailed me with a link on how to get a vote in the leadership election.

As a member of TSSA, one of Labour's affiliated trade unions, you can vote in this election provided you register as a Labour supporter. You can do this here www.tssa.org.uk/Labour-supporter. For the reasons outlined in this letter, we would like you to vote for Jeremy. However, that is you choice.

I could, like some, shouted indignantly amount the amount of bullying i'm getting to vote JC, but there isn't any.

 

[mauvais]

I could, like some, shouted indignntly amount the amount of bullying i'm getting to vote JC, but there isn't any.

That's no reason to refrain!

 

[J Ed]

That's no reason to refrain!

Indeed, the opposite is true

 

[1%er]

I didn't want to argue with people today, its been a long day so i deleted. If you want an interesting read on brit politics shennanigans try the wiki on the Zinoviev Letter.

Fuck me the Daily Mail has been "at it" for years

I think I'll do a lesson plan around that letter, thanks.

 

[heinous seamus]

Edit - ignore that, I read it as Unite, not Unison and posted wrong info.

I'm always doing that

 

[DotCommunist]

Fuck me the Daily Mail has been "at it" for years

I think I'll do a lesson plan around that letter, thanks.

be sure to mention the times they endorsed fascists

 

[Wilf]

They sound like anxiety-ridden 13 year old drama llamas

Somebody nearly rang me up once. It was terrifying.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

be sure to mention the times they endorsed fascists

I see the straw man was alive and well back then. Of course the Socialists hated Fascism because it was foreign.

 

[J Ed]

This is amazingly pathetic

Tearful Labour official slams Corbyn, 13/07/2016, World at One - BBC Radio 4

Is Johanna Baxter actually this upset? If so I feel sorry for her, she is obviously out of her depth and shouldn't be put in situations where... well I don't know, she has to talk to people? If not, what a manipulative nasty piece of work.

 

[J Ed]

Somebody nearly rang me up once. It was terrifying.

They should try working in a call centre...

 

[Wilf]

This is amazingly pathetic

Tearful Labour official slams Corbyn, 13/07/2016, World at One - BBC Radio 4

Is Johanna Baxter actually this upset? If so I feel sorry for her, she is obviously out of her depth and shouldn't be put in situations where... well I don't know, she has to talk to people? If not, what a manipulative nasty piece of work.

Madam, I salute your tremulosity!

 

[Wilf]

To be honest, assuming it's true, short of doing it to the fash, posting up personal/mobile numbers is a cunt's trick.