Is their a practical alternative to the con dems?

[JTG]

What about him delaying the american strike several times .Giving the inspectors time to go in only for time and time again for sadam to chuck them out not leting them get on with there job.

I believe there was a conspiracy but he was taken in like anyone else.
I Believe he was given wrong information by the security service .

Are you in London? There's a bridge I'd like to interest you in purchasing

 

[ferrelhadley]

Anything more left has appears to have about as much influence on things as me.

"The left" mostly consists of sanctimonious narcissist who could bring themselves down from there ideological masturbation to put together some policies that would be thought workable by the ordinary person.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

What about him delaying the american strike several times .Giving the inspectors time to go in only for time and time again for sadam to chuck them out not leting them get on with there job.

I believe there was a conspiracy but he was taken in like anyone else.
I Believe he was given wrong information by the security service .

Do you believe Blair thinks there was such a conspiracy?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Louis MacNeice]

"The left" mostly consists of sanctimonious narcissist who could bring themselves down from there ideological masturbation to put together some policies that would be thought workable by the ordinary person.

Are you and likesfish working together?

Louis MacNeice

 

[William of Walworth]

Some of you might not yet have seen what 'one 2 3' is up to (post #24).

He's either really like that, or far more likely, striving effortfully to 'be' 'like' 'that'

 

[likesfish]

No hes not I'm just pissed.
Milliband shouldnt be seeing the unions as a bad thing more why arent more people in one.
i'd love to join a union but being part time agency worker/outsourced cleaner nobodys intrested in me.
the best defence workers have is an effective modern union one that listens to its members and communicates so its a mass membership organisation.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Whatever your opinion he introduced a lot of social welfare and benefits for the working class.
What about.
Civil partnerships, free nursery places , sure starts, working tax credits, D.L.A .
He might of failed in certain things but he lead labour to victory in 3 general elections he must of been doing something right.

A couple of things:

• He didn't "introduce" a lot of social welfare, his government adapted other parts of welfare and gave them knew names. Sure Start was just about the only bit of original thinking any of Blair's governments had.
  
• DLA was around before new Labour was even invented, you fucking know-nothing mug cunt. That's why new fucking Labour instituted the so-called "Benefits Integrity Project" in 2000 to "weed out scroungers".
  
• "Free nursery places" don't exist. They're subsidised.
• He won 3 elections because the opposition were an even worse proposition, not because "he must of [sic] been doing something right".

 

[ViolentPanda]

What if urban75 became a political party

To paraphrase Marx: "I wouldn't want to be a member of any party that would have me as a member".

 

[likesfish]

To paraphrase Marx: "I wouldn't want to be a member of any party that would have me as a member".

When the opposition is a vampire who cant been seen during the day
And er the invisible man its not difficult.

 

[nino_savatte]

A couple of things:

• He didn't "introduce" a lot of social welfare, his government adapted other parts of welfare and gave them knew names. Sure Start was just about the only bit of original thinking any of Blair's governments had.
  
• DLA was around before new Labour was even invented, you fucking know-nothing mug cunt. That's why new fucking Labour instituted the so-called "Benefits Integrity Project" in 2000 to "weed out scroungers".
  
• "Free nursery places" don't exist. They're subsidised.
• He won 3 elections because the opposition were an even worse proposition, not because "he must of [sic] been doing something right".

And tax credits come from the Friedmanite idea of negative taxation (or whatever it's called). No self-respecting socialist would touch such an idea. Labour not being proper socialists were more than happy to embrace monetarism in 76 and once they tried it, they never lost their taste for it.

 

[nino_savatte]

The only solution is Tony Blair.
I fear for labour future without him hes a dynamic leader and he get the right frothing at the mouth.

 

[stavros]

You are Euan Blair and I claim my five pounds.

I read an article the other day suggesting Euan might be being lined up to run for Bob Ainsworth's pretty safe Coventry seat.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I read an article the other day suggesting Euan might be being lined up to run for Bob Ainsworth's pretty safe Coventry seat.

There have been a fair few stories like this over the past 2-3 years, plus stories about Straw the Younger (who at least is balls-deep in politics, even if it's nu-Labourish politics). Euan Blair tough, what the fuck has he done to deserve a seat, let alone a safe one?

 

[stavros]

The article in question mentioned how Labour insiders were speculating on who would get elected first, Euan Blair, Will Straw or David Prescott.

 

[bi0boy]

I read an article the other day suggesting Euan might be being lined up to run for Bob Ainsworth's pretty safe Coventry seat.

I saw him in one of his wedding photos today, he looks about 12 ffs.

 

[stavros]

Someone like Danny Alexander doesn't look a whole lot older.

And didn't Jeffrey Archer get elected when he was 13, setting a new world record?*


*Source: J. Archer.

 

[Quartz]

Euan Blair tough, what the fuck has he done to deserve a seat, let alone a safe one?

Maybe it's more a case of what more can Tony do for those who select him?

 

[SpineyNorman]

fuck the green party as well, if you haven't noticed what malthusian scabby bastards they are then you haven't been paying attention

This. A million times this.

 

[SpineyNorman]

What if urban75 became a political party

We should do this. I'll be shadow minister for the environment

 

[DotCommunist]

I can do agit-prop and and spag bol

 

[stethoscope]

Culture & Media Sec reporting for duties. I've bought a soundsystem, some tunes and a bag full of doves.

 

[SpineyNorman]

I think my policy of 'no plant life except monkeypuzzle trees and venus fly traps and a final solution to the wasp question' is a nailed on vote winner.

 

[emanymton]

I think my policy of 'no plant life except monkeypuzzle trees and venus fly traps and a final solution to the wasp question' is a nailed on vote winner.

Can I be shadow Minster for industrial relations.

My first policy idea is we shoot all HR managers.

 

[Nylock]

Minister for renationalising the whole fuckin' lot reporting in, chief o7

 

[free spirit]

And tax credits come from the Friedmanite idea of negative taxation (or whatever it's called). No self-respecting socialist would touch such an idea. Labour not being proper socialists were more than happy to embrace monetarism in 76 and once they tried it, they never lost their taste for it.

indeed.

It's becoming increasingly obvious that all tax credits did was to allow big business to not increase their wages to enable their staff to live on the wages they get paid, which then helps them to undercut any businesses that actually paid a living wage so that they either have to shut down, or adopt the poverty wages + tax credits and housing benefit methods of big business in order to survive.

Meantime big business are making massive profits, and the differential between the wages of the common employees vs senior management and directors has got dramatically wider. Effectively it's the tax payer subsidising these profits, and performance bonuses and wage rises for those at the top.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

A couple of things:

• He didn't "introduce" a lot of social welfare, his government adapted other parts of welfare and gave them knew names. Sure Start was just about the only bit of original thinking any of Blair's governments had.
  
• DLA was around before new Labour was even invented, you fucking know-nothing mug cunt. That's why new fucking Labour instituted the so-called "Benefits Integrity Project" in 2000 to "weed out scroungers".
  
• "Free nursery places" don't exist. They're subsidised.
• He won 3 elections because the opposition were an even worse proposition, not because "he must of [sic] been doing something right".

Even Sure Start was lifted from an American policy (like so many other nulabour ideas) called Head Start that goes back to the sixties.

 

[SikhWarrioR]

I hear that jeremy clarkson is thinking of challenging ed milipede in Doncaster

 

[Nylock]

 

[DotCommunist]

amusingly enough he might get more votes than the lib dems. That would make the whole thing bearable to me

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I hear that jeremy clarkson is thinking of challenging ed milipede in Doncaster

If I lived in Doncaster that would be the only reason I would consider voting for Milibland.