Is it too late?

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What do you mean by the tipping point?

Not wishing to speak for StoneRoad but to possibly agree with them. I feel llthat countries like Britain and America have gone as far and as bad as they should go with destroying the environment with no turning back. I think that we were very delicately tip toeing round to trying to rein it in. With what Trump is suggesting he must be putting the issue back 30 years or more and doing irreparable damage.
A huge issue with this is there is no one person or body that can enforce the changes/improvements. Not only that, but as a totally denier, he is clearly influencing and bringing millions along with him.

 

[StoneRoad]

What do you mean by the tipping point?
We cannot reverse climate change in our lifetimes even if we have not reached the tipping point.

I define a tipping point as the point in which a system that was in some form of equilibrium [balance], even with variations back & forth with different inputs, becomes unstable due to one or more input being excessively added and the system falls out of balance.

In the case of the climate change, the excess input to the system has been the addition of the extra carbon dioxide and methane / fluorocarbons since the start of the "Industrial Revolution" - The tipping point being when the environment can't absorb enough of the excess CO2 and the system "overheats".

Presently, I agree - the human race is not doing anything like enough to control CO2 emissions, nor yet doing enough to reverse the trends.
Climate changes continually over time, but what we could control - if "we" had the political will - is the production of excess CO2, both by stopping increases in burning fossil fuels and by taking measures to mitigate what's already floating about in the atmosphere [ie planting trees, supplementing peat bogs and the like]

 

[yield]

Get to the Mountains and learn to farm.


A warning

Life in the Appalachians once felt ‘untouchable.’ Then Helene struck.
Devastation in western North Carolina shows there are no safe havens from climate change.
Yale Climate Connections. October 11, 2024

 

[PTK]

I define a tipping point as the point in which a system that was in some form of equilibrium [balance], even with variations back & forth with different inputs, becomes unstable due to one or more input being excessively added and the system falls out of balance.

In the case of the climate change, the excess input to the system has been the addition of the extra carbon dioxide and methane / fluorocarbons since the start of the "Industrial Revolution" - The tipping point being when the environment can't absorb enough of the excess CO2 and the system "overheats".

Presently, I agree - the human race is not doing anything like enough to control CO2 emissions, nor yet doing enough to reverse the trends.
Climate changes continually over time, but what we could control - if "we" had the political will - is the production of excess CO2, both by stopping increases in burning fossil fuels and by taking measures to mitigate what's already floating about in the atmosphere [ie planting trees, supplementing peat bogs and the like]

By your definition, we have already passed the tipping point, as the system has overheated.

 

[StoneRoad]

By your definition, we have already passed the tipping point, as the system has overheated.

Sadly, I agree.

But, maybe - just maybe - "we" can salvage something, even with #47 doing their best to wreck it even more [as a climate change denier and an ignoramus --- par for the course]