Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[brogdale]

details here Honda to stun ministers with closure of Swindon factory

Chucky'll be gutted if this knocks their treachery down the news agenda.

 

[gentlegreen]

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[Pickman's model]

Chucky'll be gutted if this knocks their treachery down the news agenda.

and finally...

 

[Ranbay]

Swindon was one of the first areas in the country to declare a result, which saw 61,745 (54.7%) vote to leave.

 

[redsquirrel]

4 of them then.

Which ones?

How many of the 7 do you think would keep their seats in a hypothetical GE, or even split the Labour vote to an electorally significant extent?

Umunna and Berger might have some type of individual following and take some votes, but I still can see them keeping their seats

 

[Pickman's model]

Chucky'll be gutted if this knocks their treachery down the news agenda.

i'll tell you who'll be chuffed with chucky and his nefandous pals, zuckerberg, who will be pleased to see the parliamentary report about facebook dumped down the agenda. have chucky and his foul cohorts taken zuckerberg's zlotys?

 

[brogdale]

i'll tell you who'll be chuffed with chucky and his nefandous pals, zuckerberg, who will be pleased to see the parliamentary report about facebook dumped down the agenda. have chucky and his foul cohorts taken zuckerberg's zlotys?

They agree with Nick?

 

[Ranbay]

Which ones?


Umunna and Berger might have some type of individual following and take some votes, but I still can see them keeping their seats

I duno, just a guess. i don't even care or know who the 7 are apart from the main one.

 

[Pickman's model]

They agree with Nick?

which nick?

 

[Pickman's model]

I duno, just a guess. i don't even care or know who the 7 are apart from the main one.

some of them don't even know themselves

 

[Ranbay]

some of them don't even know themselves

Seems like a good day to bury Brexit news to me.

 

[brogdale]

which nick?

 

[Pickman's model]

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i'd quite erased him from my mind

 

[mwgdrwg]

Swindon was one of the first areas in the country to declare a result, which saw 61,745 (54.7%) vote to leave.

I think it was Sunderland that was actually first, where over 60% voted leave.

 

[Sprocket.]

i'd quite erased him from my mind

I always knew that you were never a Clegg nut!

 

[Wilf]

Must be a bit depressing for the guardian. For all the squawking they've been doing about splits, all the breathless reporting of potential rebels, shadow cabinet divides, votes of no confidence in Corbyn... just seven.

 

[butchersapron]

Must be a bit depressing for the guardian. For all the squawking they've been doing about splits, all the breathless reporting of potential rebels, shadow cabinet divides, votes of no confidence in Corbyn... just seven.

Yeah, but feel the quality.

 

[Sprocket.]

The Insignificant Seven.

 

[Wilf]

The Independent Group: Strategy Notes

Step 1 Press Conference. Check.
Step 2 Website - already wonky
Step 3 Naked Appearance on Good Morning Britain. It's the only way for the middle classes to get their voice heard on Brexit, but risks looking like a Calendar with only 7 months in the year.
Step 4 - claim wheelbarrow full of money after losing seats.

 

[Ranbay]

I think it was Sunderland that was actually first, where over 60% voted leave.

8th was Swindon... can't find who was first.

 

[MickiQ]

That would be my guess, but i'd be interested to hear from anyone who wants to argue otherwise

People vote Labour for one of 2 reasons either they want the Labour candidate to win or they don't want the Labour candidate to win but want any of others even less. If you live in a safe seat you can
effectively vote none of the above by not voting. 6 of these are in safe Labour seats 60-70% plus share of the vote only Smith is in a marginal where she might pick up enough disillusioned Labour voters plus
other parties plus the floaters to stand a chance. Chuka probably has the biggest name recognition so maybe outside chance for him as well but were I a betting man Smith is the only one worth putting money on.
It all depends on what happens next, more could leave or it could trigger a bit of a civil war but if it's just these 7 then I would suggest 6 of them and probably all 7 won't last past 2022.
This is another nail in the coffin of Corbyn's hope for an early GE but that particular coffin lid is firmly nailed down enough as it is.

 

[Wilf]

This is another nail in the coffin of Corbyn's hope for an early GE but that particular coffin lid is firmly nailed down enough as it is.

This certainly.

 

[SpackleFrog]

The Insignificant Seven.

The Scabby Seven

 

[SpackleFrog]

This certainly.

Dunno about that actually. They haven't registered a new party yet, so it's hard to make concrete predictions until they do, but if the Tories believe that such a party would split the Labour vote like the SDP did in 1983 then it would probably embolden them to go for one. Corbyn has two routes to an early GE; either a mass movement to force an election or the Tories believing they could win one.

 

[Wilf]

Running dogs.

 

[Sprocket.]

The Scabby Seven

I’d get passionate and angry toward scabs. This lot are just dust in the wind.

 

[TopCat]

Yeah, but feel the quality.

Distinct seconds.

 

[Wilf]

Dunno about that actually. They haven't registered a new party yet, so it's hard to make concrete predictions until they do, but if the Tories believe that such a party would split the Labour vote like the SDP did in 1983 then it would probably embolden them to go for one. Corbyn has two routes to an early GE; either a mass movement to force an election or the Tories believing they could win one.

Yeah, if May goes after Brexit/non-Brexit the new leader may call an election at some point, though they'd be worried after 2017 and they'd also be accused of doing politics at a sensitive time for the economy. So, dunno. Suppose the 7 come into that calculation if they get a few more MPs and, crucially, some kind of organisation in seats around the country. I don't see much chance of that. Perhaps the practical outcome will be an agreement with the Libdems not to oppose each other whenever the next GE comes.

 

[Sprocket.]

If another party does evolve will we see the return of David Miliband?

 

[Pickman's model]

If another party does evolve will we see the return of David Miliband?

this time as farce