Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[HoratioCuthbert]

Sorry I didn't mean my post at you, more of a general comment.

My bad etc

Coool,but like what were you saying man? I’d like to ken

 

[Humberto]

not that much in it, several hundred thousand march, where are the party leader's arguments? There aren't any. They keep distance and people accept it. Class system there.

Distance between the political establishment and whatever is acknowledged as being worthy of comment/response/attention by the interests they protect. Its embarrassing really.

 

[Mr Moose]

As I thought would have been obvious from my other posts on here, I don’t actually believe voting remain necessarily means you support everything the EU does. However if you then accuse leave voters of being in bed with Farage or whatever, it raises some questions

Not sure how you got to that. I’m merely quoting Tory policy at you, the most popular party with Brexit voters.

It’s a bit absurd to accuse one side of building a wall when one of the main appeals of the other side was that they would build a bigger better one.

 

[Mr Moose]

Was in London today and witnessed a fair chunk of the march pass as I stood outside the 'spoons in Whitehall.
I was a) genuinely impressed by the numbers...compared with many recent demos I've been on this felt huge
but...
b) genuinely unimpressed with quite how homogenous the demographics were (very, very white, MC and not from round here
c) the silence

Honestly...fucking depressing all round.

‘Very, very white’. Probably not inaccurate, but set against the Leave vote demographic?

 

[redsquirrel]

Two sides - Leave or Remain. That's all the politics that exists. Great.

 

[Mr Moose]

barf - what of smugarama of utter tossers heading up the 2nd ref campaign. I think brexit is an utter cluster fuck on stilts but no way can I fall in behind those cunts.

Can’t argue with that. Remain’s big failing is that it has no voice able to articulate how it could address what was wrong before.

 

[Mr Moose]

Two sides - Leave or Remain. That's all the politics that exists. Great.

Agree with that. It’s not the main course.

 

[paolo]

Two sides - Leave or Remain. That's all the politics that exists. Great.

Before the referendum was announced, it barely registered as a topic of concern for the public overall. Far higher up were things like housing and healthcare.

Now, leaving the EU is all consuming. It's more important than anything else. We don't even know why we're doing it anymore, because we still don't know what it means yet.

 

[Pickman's model]

Before the referendum was announced, it barely registered as a topic of concern. Far higher up were things like housing and healthcare.

Now, leaving the EU is all consuming. It's more important than anything else. We don't even know why we're doing it anymore, because we still don't know what it means yet.

Because it's there

 

[Pickman's model]

I say fair play to Corbyn, his acted completely the right way imho to a DEMOCRATIC vote.
Dignified and his not got involved in the slanging matches that have gone on.
He also knows many of the people who voted for brexit are also Labour supporters.
Upset these and they might just turn their back on him and Labour.

You never did tell us more about your claim that the great majority of remain voters have died since 2016, I'm still interested in hearing more about this unknown slaughter

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh there’s more added! Jeremy Corbyn has been anti EU his whole
Career man, that’s where he is. I mean he did a flip flop but he’s at least tried to be honest. A bit. I mean he just looks like an honest man struggling in the swamp of shite to me, I’ll spare him come the revolution.

No one else will

 

[redsquirrel]

Now, leaving the EU is all consuming. It's more important than anything else. We don't even know why we're doing it anymore, because we still don't know what it means yet.

Is it? To who? Not to me. Not to the majority of the people in this country at the last general election.

The fact that it's "all consuming" to the 650 pricks that inhabit the HoC (and ~850 even bigger wankers that constitute the HoL), media luvvies and the CBI, DoI etc and maybe to you, doesn't mean that it's major issue for most the people in this country.

 

[Kesher]

Is it? To who? Not to me. Not to the majority of the people in this country at the last general election.

The fact that it's "all consuming" to the 650 pricks that inhabit the HoC (and ~850 even bigger wankers that constitute the HoL), media luvvies and the CBI, DoI etc and maybe to you, doesn't mean that it's major issue for most the people in this country.

It's a major issue whether people think about it or ignore it

 

[Pickman's model]

It pales into insignificance beside the burning issue of the day, will rangers manage to beat celtic

 

[Pickman's model]

Piss poor turnout really and a complete waste of time.
Over 1million marched against the IRAQ war, umm how did that turn out.
Lots of oldies(remainers say they dont count) and kids dragged along by parents who did not vote and have no thoughts on the issue just to get the numbers up.
And poor unknown speakers on show
Many saying nothing to see here
Brexit full steam ahead

700,000 will turn out at your funeral to ensure life is extinct

 

[tommers]

Is it? To who? Not to me. Not to the majority of the people in this country at the last general election.

The fact that it's "all consuming" to the 650 pricks that inhabit the HoC (and ~850 even bigger wankers that constitute the HoL), media luvvies and the CBI, DoI etc and maybe to you, doesn't mean that it's major issue for most the people in this country.

700 thousand people marched about it yesterday!

 

[DotCommunist]

corbyn would have been booed and heckled if he'd turned up, thats obvious. The fubby crowd just demanded he be there so they can berate him in person.

 

[billbond]

It pales into insignificance beside the burning issue of the day, will rangers manage to beat celtic

I do hope so

 

[JHE]

That very obviously would depend on what he said. It Corbyn had turned up to declare that he supports the demand for another referendum with the option to remain in the EU, he would have been cheered more than any other speaker and would have been hailed as the hero of the hour. It would have been the main news from the march. People rightly infer from his absence that he does not support the demand (though he hasn't entirely ruled out a referendum either).

 

[grit]

Is it? To who? Not to me. Not to the majority of the people in this country at the last general election.

The fact that it's "all consuming" to the 650 pricks that inhabit the HoC (and ~850 even bigger wankers that constitute the HoL), media luvvies and the CBI, DoI etc and maybe to you, doesn't mean that it's major issue for most the people in this country.

 

[gentlegreen]

In the event of a re-run of the farce, would Theresa May campaign on the Remainer side ?

 

[JHE]

In the event of a re-run of the farce, would Theresa May campaign on the Remainer side ?

For there to be a referendum, May would first have to be ousted and, once ousted, I guess she will retire to lick her wounds and write her memoirs. I doubt she's a good writer and, like all the worst political memoirs, hers will show she was right all along.

(I don't see why a referendum would be a farce, with or without May's involvement.)

 

[gentlegreen]

To me, it seems a bit like Chamberlain asking "should we go to war with Germany ? " ...

 

[Pickman's model]

To me, it seems a bit like Chamberlain asking "should we go to war with Germany ? " ...

We have always been at war with eurasia

 

[T & P]

(I don't see why a referendum would be a farce, with or without May's involvement.)

The first one certainly was, all the way from its conception. A second referendum on the other hand would quite the opposite of a farce.

 

[brogdale]

We have always been at war with eurasia

Ourselves?

 

[Pickman's model]

Ourselves?

Eastasia

 

[redsquirrel]

It's a major issue whether people think about it or ignore it

Maybe it is maybe it isn't but that's irrelevant to paolo's claim that it's "all consuming" to people in the UK. For many, many people other issues are more important.

Now, leaving the EU is all consuming. It's more important than anything else. We don't even know why we're doing it anymore, because we still don't know what it means yet.

And you do realise that by arguing that the EU is (and should be?) "all consuming", that all of politics can be reduced to Leave or Remain you are arguing for an alliance with filth like Umunna, Soubry, the CBI etc? That you think these people are your comrades?

 

[DotCommunist]

That very obviously would depend on what he said. It Corbyn had turned up to declare that he supports the demand for another referendum with the option to remain in the EU, he would have been cheered more than any other speaker and would have been hailed as the hero of the hour. It would have been the main news from the march

of course, but everyone knew that was not going to happen. So what else is the 'wheres corbyn?' stuff except remain tory opportunism

 

[Pickman's model]

Corbyn ruined Christmas