Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Pickman's model]

LOL! You dumb twat!

Yeh. That's as incisive a political argument as you're able to construct.

 

[Humirax]

yeh when in doubt resort to ad hom bullshit. i know your sort, shevek.

The difference is, you insult people in an arrogant way without flaming and you make sure you get in there first with the insults, presumably because it makes you feel all clever. I simply responded to that.

 

[Pickman's model]

The difference is, you insult people in an arrogant way without flaming and you make sure you get in there first with the insults, presumably because it makes you feel all clever. I simply responded to that.

The difference is i can put together an argument which stands up to examination and you can't.

 

[Humirax]

In your opinion

 

[DexterTCN]

He said, as it quotes him saying again in the fucking bit you’ve quoted *the fans* were responsible for the victims deaths. Just as The Sun did years ago.
I saw the tweets.

Of course your memory of some tweets (feel free to quote them) will be much better than documented legal action and subsequent retraction, apology and payment. You'll be right and the links will be wrong. (otherwise you'd be putting editor in a position where you are repeating allegations that have been confirmed as false against a heavily-funded individual that loves to sue people)

You should contact The Scotsman and explain how they can get their money back - you could get a nice little fee. Urban does remind me of their comments sections sometimes tbh.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Of course your memory of some tweets (feel free to quote them) will be much better than documented legal action and subsequent retraction, apology and payment. You'll be right and the links will be wrong. (otherwise you'd be putting editor in a position where you are repeating allegations that have been confirmed as false against a heavily-funded individual that loves to sue people)

You should contact The Scotsman and explain how they can get their money back - you could get a nice little fee. Urban does remind me of their comments sections sometimes tbh.

“and said he had in fact said that other Liverpool fans there on the day “were partly culpable for the deaths of the 96”, not the victims themselves.”



In full from CommonSpace Scotland:


Jonathan Rimmer: We need to talk about Wings Over Scotland

 

[Pickman's model]

In your opinion

You haven't managed this far on this thread. You say you've been exposed to critical thinking but I see no evidence of that. None of your replies to my posts are more than facile. If you'd listened to and thought about Martin's videos you'd not come out with the utter shite you do. Martin did seven or eight videos during last year's general election and if you'd taken on board the points he made you'd not make such a prat of yourself as you have on this thread. The problem isn't the relatively small number of working class tories but the far larger number of working class labour voters, who are the people upon who you should concentrate your persuasive efforts, such as they are. I would suggest you go away and think about things but I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that's not really on the cards.

 

[Humirax]

You haven't managed this far on this thread. You say you've been exposed to critical thinking but I see no evidence of that. None of your replies to my posts are more than facile. If you'd listened to and thought about Martin's videos you'd not come out with the utter shite you do. Martin did seven or eight videos during last year's general election and if you'd taken on board the points he made you'd not make such a prat of yourself as you have on this thread. The problem isn't the relatively small number of working class tories but the far larger number of working class labour voters, who are the people upon who you should concentrate your persuasive efforts, such as they are. I would suggest you go away and think about things but I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that's not really on the cards.

I think about things alot,and I experience life as a poor, working class person. But according to you I'm just thick, then you wonder why people insult you.

 

[Humirax]

I've got better things to do with my time than be insulted by someone who is supposed to be on the same side and who thinks I should justify myself to them with evidence of critical thinking as if they are some kind of supreme judge of politics or anarchism or whatever.

 

[Humirax]

It really makes me wonder what the point of being on these forums is and also whether theres any point bothering with the (pretty much non-existent) anarchist scene.

 

[Humirax]

Another reason people will turn to Labour because the anarchists aren't coming to the rescue any time soon, if ever at all, the 'movement' is pretty much dead and full of dogmatism. It comes across as an 'elite' clique. Labour is the only conceivable alternative for a hell of alot of working class people.

 

[Humirax]

You haven't managed this far on this thread. You say you've been exposed to critical thinking but I see no evidence of that. None of your replies to my posts are more than facile. If you'd listened to and thought about Martin's videos you'd not come out with the utter shite you do. Martin did seven or eight videos during last year's general election and if you'd taken on board the points he made you'd not make such a prat of yourself as you have on this thread. The problem isn't the relatively small number of working class tories but the far larger number of working class labour voters, who are the people upon who you should concentrate your persuasive efforts, such as they are. I would suggest you go away and think about things but I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that's not really on the cards.

But according to Martin, from what I recall of a past video, he can understand why working class people vote UKIP and states that we shouldn't judge them too harshly for it. But somehow voting Labour is incomprehensible? That doesn't make sense as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think about things alot,and I experience life as a poor, working class person. But according to you I'm just thick, then you wonder why people insult you.

If time after time someone no matter their background says things which do not follow then yes I will conclude sooner or later that maybe they're not that bright. This has no bearing on their wealth or class as anyone who has seen my posts on the current administration will agree.

 

[Pickman's model]

But according to Martin, from what I recall of a past video, he can understand why working class people vote UKIP and states that we shouldn't judge them too harshly for it. But somehow voting Labour is incomprehensible? That doesn't make sense as far as I'm concerned.

I never said people's voting Labour was incomprehensible.

 

[Humirax]

Who *introduced* uni tuition fees?

Who pfi'd all the hospitals?

Who is knocking down social housing more than the tories?

Isn't that the neo-liberals in the party though?

 

[Pickman's model]

Isn't that the neo-liberals in the party though?

Right not the real labour party, I see

 

[Humirax]

I never said people's voting Labour was incomprehensible.

You implied it and Martin doesn't seem to understand it either

 

[Humirax]

Right not the real labour party, I see

Well that's my understanding of it, I could well be wrong. I don't think I've seen anyone on the left in the party supporting it though, or doing it.

 

[Pickman's model]

You implied it and Martin doesn't seem to understand it either

Jesus Mary and Joseph where did I imply it?

 

[Humirax]

This is a waste of my time

 

[Humirax]

If time after time someone no matter their background says things which do not follow then yes I will conclude sooner or later that maybe they're not that bright. This has no bearing on their wealth or class as anyone who has seen my posts on the current administration will agree.

Get fucked you condescending arsehole!

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Yup

 

[Pickman's model]

Well that's my understanding of it, I could well be wrong. I don't think I've seen anyone on the left in the party supporting it though, or doing it.

Have you seen anyone like John McDonnell, Jeremy Corbyn or anyone else out of the campaign group saying Labour councils should stop knocking down estates to make way for yuppie flats?

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Damn you fucked up my timely reply

 

[Humirax]

Cunt!

 

[Pickman's model]

Get fucked you condescending arsehole!

If you can explain in any other way why time after time you say I've said something I haven't, I'd be interested to hear it.

 

[Pickman's model]

This is a waste of my time

Yes, yes it is.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

But according to Martin, from what I recall of a past video, he can understand why working class people vote UKIP and states that we shouldn't judge them too harshly for it. But somehow voting Labour is incomprehensible? That doesn't make sense as far as I'm concerned.

I broadly like Martin's content and I don't vote Labour, but you have a fair point here.

 

[Pickman's model]

Cunt!

Do you think that in real life your ascending to insults will influence people in the way you desire?

 

[Humirax]

I know you think yourself uber intelligent and all but's really not intelligent to look down on those who are on the same side as you.