andysays
Love and solidarity
Next you'll be telling us it isn't in the national interest
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Falklanders are currently EU citizens though.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Only by default, because they are British citizens.
2hats
Dust.
Mea culpa.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
pas Macron mais macarons, as they might say about the British negotiation team*.
* if they got a B in GCSE French
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Italy's new govt is prob the most euro sceptic .
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
il aurait mieux valu que boris johnson soit étranglé à la naissance
(i don't think google's got it quite right but the meaning should be clear)
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Certainly not - if you keep translating it between the two languages you end up with "for better race" via "class is better".
Supine
Newt Member
philosophical
Well-Known Member
This democracy lark is becoming complicated. The Scottish parliament has for the first time rejected a piece of Westminster legislation in the EU Withdrawal Bill.
One irony that can be expected is that the Bill will be imposed on Scotland anyway, by the same brexiteers that decry the (false) notion that the EU imposes stuff on the UK.
So we have a fair few 'will of the people' issues swirling about fighting for precedence. The will of the Scottish people expressed by their parliament is wiped out by the so called will of the UK population in voting for brexit.
It might be worth asking why there are regional powers anyway, except it has been recognised by the UK generally that certain regions ought to have a degree of autonomy, but it turns out that autonomy can be sidelined.
As a population Scotland voted against brexit, as a regional democratically elected parliament Hollyrood votes against the EU withdrawal bill.
What will the right wing media make of that, the Lords being the enemy of the people, and Scotland being the enemy of, well the English I suppose.
Is anybody tasked with drawing the country together post brexit? I don't envy them their job.
One irony that can be expected is that the Bill will be imposed on Scotland anyway, by the same brexiteers that decry the (false) notion that the EU imposes stuff on the UK.
So we have a fair few 'will of the people' issues swirling about fighting for precedence. The will of the Scottish people expressed by their parliament is wiped out by the so called will of the UK population in voting for brexit.
It might be worth asking why there are regional powers anyway, except it has been recognised by the UK generally that certain regions ought to have a degree of autonomy, but it turns out that autonomy can be sidelined.
As a population Scotland voted against brexit, as a regional democratically elected parliament Hollyrood votes against the EU withdrawal bill.
What will the right wing media make of that, the Lords being the enemy of the people, and Scotland being the enemy of, well the English I suppose.
Is anybody tasked with drawing the country together post brexit? I don't envy them their job.
andysays
Love and solidarity
More than happy to do that
"We're all in this together"
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
They also voted to remain part of the UK, so they have to accept the UK wide vote for brexit.
Supine
Newt Member
Which translates as Boris & Mogg will throw us in the dodgy life raft and then stand on our heads to ensure they drown last. The cunts.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Looks like everyone who voted for Brexit is anti-Scots, as well as anti-Irish and racist
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
If you're attempting to have a go at me, you fail on so many levels.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Interesting that you (and I suppose others) use the word 'they' in the second part of your reply in this context, rather than the word 'we'.
The Scottish independence referendum was indeed one where the Scottish population voted to be part of the UK, and as I said earlier, on one level the question arises about the point of regional assemblies, parliaments or whatever, if ultimately the regional differences of political opinion will always be trumped by Westminster.
In this thread above there is reference to 'the national interest', but we inhabit a nation which does not completely want to be homogenous with itself, and to me begs the question as to what is 'the nation' anyway. Is it that regional cultural differences are acceptable and can be recognised and celebrated, but when it comes to the UK as a nation political differences are not always that acceptable?
When I read the term above 'the national interest' I don't think it is an easy definition to define what the UK as a nation actually is. In what is supposed to be a unified nation there is a lot of us and them going on.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
I think the dig was aimed at me.
Hollis
bloody furious
Open door - to argue for a remain, soft Brexit position
Other constituencies - well for starters just about everyone who doesn't fit into either your 'pro-EU middle-class liberal left' or 'pro-leave working class' - which in my book leaves a lot to play for..
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Thomson Reuters is moving one of its businesses from London to Dublin because of Brexit
I'm sure that's not worth much anyway. Easily replaced.
I'm sure that's not worth much anyway. Easily replaced.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
This Wikipedia entry for "gammon" vanished rather quickly.
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Supine
Newt Member
Do you have a number in mind for when companies leaving does become a problem? 10? 50? 500?
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DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
I was being sarcastic.
More than 500 have already gone, as well as hundreds of thousands of workers, it appears. We won't see the damage for a while but it's already happening.
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presumably these hundreds of thousands of workers who have gone will be replaced by the incoming migrants.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
And, yet employment is at record levels, with some impressive increases, considering uncertainty.
UK record employment increases likelihood of interest rate hike
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
em...pay's up by nearly 3% is it?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
That's why I pushed myself to give them a 5% increase, I want to keep them on well above the 'living wage', they are a cracking team, who have been with me for years, I don't want to see them drift off. Despite them engaged in what could be considered 'minimum wage work', the living wage went up to £7.38 ph, my team went up to £10.50 ph, and I am hoping to increase that to £11.00 ph next year.
Partly paid by increased rates to new clients, partly by increasing volume of business.
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